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Grenades is a Primary Demon Hunter skill unlocked at Level 15. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that delay for an instant, then explode in place. Grenades can be cast very quickly, and the potential Hatred generated by this ability is as high or higher than any of the other bow skills.

Targeting the Grandes is quite easy, the Grenades seem almost flexible, like Nerf toys the way they bounce a bit, but quickly come to a stop and explode where they are aimed. This was not always the case; during development the Grenades were like chunks of bouncy ice and they tended to skitter very quickly, even flying well off the visible screen. Hitting targets at close range was difficult. It is not any longer.

Background[edit | edit source]

Grenades in action.

The skill releases a set number of grenades (dependent upon skill rank and possibly runes) into the targeted area. The grenades are physics-enabled, so they are able to bounce around objects like barrels or off of platforms such as walls and doors. After a one second delay, they explode in quick succession, doing splash fire damage to any objects or enemies close by.

Skill Rune Effects[edit | edit source]

See the Grenades rune effects page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.

Name	Level	Description

<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Tinkerer">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Cluster Grenades">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Grenade Cache">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Stun Grenades">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Gas Grenades">Grenades</skill>

Skill Design[edit | edit source]

Grenades are meant to be spammed and used against small or large groups of enemies. They are not hugely damaging, but they can be issued forth in great quantities, and as they explode shortly after hitting the ground, it's easy to "lead" enemies towards you, steadily throwing the Grenades right at the moving target. The various skill effects change the style of the grenades and their damage type, but the targeting and function remain consistent throughout the different versions of the skill.

Aiming the Grenades[edit | edit source]

A fan complained about the difficulty in aiming Grenades and earned a rebuttal from Bashiok in December 2010^[1].

I think it’s fine. It’s fun and you can pull off some pretty fun trick-moves. Not super practical all the time but I think it will definitely have its strategy. Plus, you can throw a rune on it and change the behavior if you’re having trouble gauging the throw distance.

Any sort of "trick shot" requirement to aiming has long since been removed from the game and aiming with Grenades is very easy in the final release.

Video[edit | edit source]

A video of Grenades can be seen below, courtesy of the Diablo.IncGamers.com You Tube channel. This shows the earliest development implementation of the skill, back when they were much more "skittery" on the ground and difficult to aim.

Synergies[edit | edit source]

The following Demon Hunter passives provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:

Name	Level	Description

<skill class="DemonHunter">Steady Aim</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter">Grenadier</skill>

Development[edit | edit source]

Tink, tink, tink...boom.

Grenades was first shown at BlizzCon 2010 as one of the originals when the Demon Hunter was unveiled. Wyatt Cheng spoke about the early form of the skill on the Gameplay Panel:[1]

Also selling the idea of ranged attacks is Grenades. I love this skill in our game because we have a 3D engine so you can actually bounce grenades off the walls and floors. I think it'll be an awesome way for players to come up with some creative uses for grenades, throwing them around corners. It actually bounces around and it shows, again, and it sells the Demon Hunter's themes - ranged attacks, gadgetry, preparation and planning. This is premeditated demon killing going on.

Flux reported about his time using the skill in the BlizzCon demo:[2]

Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering 9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck. It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.

Beta[edit | edit source]

Skill tiers were removed shortly before the beta started in September 2011, and Grenades became a level 7 skill, but was soon changed to level 11. The skill system was once again overhauled for the Beta Patch 13, and Grenades was classified as a Devices skill and moved up to level 14. For Beta Patch 14, it was re-classified as a Primary skill and moved to level 15.

Media[edit | edit source]

Grenades can be seen in action on video here:

Gameplay: Blizzcon 2010

You can find pictures in the Diablo III screenshot and picture gallery:

Grenades 'splodin.
A close-up look of the grenade from the BlizzCon 2010 trailer.
Grenades in flight and bouncing around.
Grenades explode massively.

References[edit | edit source]

↑ Bashiok Lies Sleeping — Incgamers 17th Dec 2010

BlizzCon 2010 Gameplay Panel Transcript
BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter First Impressions
BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter Hands-on Report
Zediono's translation of JudgeHype's pre-beta report — IncGamers 1st Aug 2011
HardRock's Demon Hunter Skills and Their Rune Effects — IncGamers 6th Sep 2011
Demon Hunter Active Skills — Blizzard's Official Diablo III Site

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[1] Bashiok Lies Sleeping — Incgamers 17th Dec 2010

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-[[File:Grenades1.jpg|left|thumb|75px]]
+[[File:IconGrenades.png|left]]
-'''Grenades''' is a [[Tier]] 1 [[Demon Hunter]] skill, which requires a character level of 2.
+'''Grenades''' is a Primary [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 15. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that delay for an instant, then explode in place. Grenades can be cast very quickly, and the potential [[Hatred]] generated by this ability is as high or higher than any of the other bow skills.
-When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that skitter along the dungeon floor, bouncing off walls and through doorways.
+Targeting the Grandes is quite easy, the Grenades seem almost flexible, like Nerf toys the way they bounce a bit, but quickly come to a stop and explode where they are aimed. This was not always the case; during development the Grenades were like chunks of bouncy ice and they tended to skitter very quickly, even flying well off the visible screen. Hitting targets at close range was difficult. It is not any longer.
-They detonate after about a one-second delay, dealing substantial fire damage to any targets in the vicinity. Higher levels in the skill raise their damage, and can be combined with [[Runestones]] to turn the Grenades into a formidable support skill.
+<br><br>__TOC__
 ==Background==
-{{Skillbox
+[[File:grenade_splosion.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Grenades in action.]]
-|game= Diablo III
+The skill releases a set number of grenades (dependent upon skill rank and possibly runes) into the targeted area. The grenades are physics-enabled, so they are able to bounce around objects like barrels or off of platforms such as walls and doors. After a one second delay, they explode in quick succession, doing splash fire damage to any objects or enemies close by.
-|portrait= grenade_close.jpg
-<!-- |portrait-width= -->
-|active= Active
-<!-- |name= -->
-|ranks= 5
-|user= Demon Hunter
-|tree= Tier 1
-|description= Thrown grenades that bounce and detonate after a delay.
-|type= Damage
-<!-- |quantity= -->
-|effect= Target
-|school= Fire
-|resource= Mana
-|cost= Low
-|cast-time= Instant
-|duration= 1 sec delay
-|cooldown= None
-|synergies= None
-}}
-[[Image:grenade_splosion.jpg|thumb|150px|left||Splosions!]]
-The skill releases a set number of grenades (dependant upon skill rank and possibly runes) into the targeted area. The grenades are physics-enabled, so they are able to bounce around objects like barrels or off of platforms such as walls and doors. After a one second delay, they explode in quick succession, doing splash fire damage to any objects or enemies close by.
+==Skill Rune Effects==
+See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.
+{{skill description header}}
+<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenades</skill>
+<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Tinkerer">Grenades</skill>
+<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Cluster Grenades">Grenades</skill>
+<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Grenade Cache">Grenades</skill>
+<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Stun Grenades">Grenades</skill>
+<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Gas Grenades">Grenades</skill>
 ==Skill Design==
-The Demon Hunter tosses three of the spiked grenades with one point in the skill. The toss determines how far they are aimed; clicking very near the Demon Hunter just drops them, while pointing at the edge of the screen hurls them very quickly, to bounce well out of sight (barring walls or other obstructions.) The grenades pass freely through enemies and other players, but are fully controlled by the physics of the dungeon levels; they bounce off of walls and objects, and will fall over the sides of levels where there are breaks in railings, etc.
+Grenades are meant to be spammed and used against small or large groups of enemies. They are not hugely damaging, but they can be issued forth in great quantities, and as they explode shortly after hitting the ground, it's easy to "lead" enemies towards you, steadily throwing the Grenades right at the moving target.  The various skill effects change the style of the grenades and their damage type, but the targeting and function remain consistent throughout the different versions of the skill.
-[[Flux]] reported about his time using the skill from BlizzCon 2010<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/demon-hunter-screenshots-and-hands-on-report/ Demon Hunter Screenshots and Hands-On Report] - Incgamers 22/10/10</ref>:<br><br>
-<blockquote>Grenades I enabled with a skill point from leveling up to 10, and they worked like nothing in Diablo 3. At level one it threw out 3 grenades, which spread out slightly, to where you very seldom hit the same monster with two of them. About 1 second after they were thrown, the grenades blew up, dealing decent splash damage to anything there. It was very hard to hit an individual monster though, since the grenades moved very quickly and bounced off of enemies and obstacles. Especially if the monster was nearby.<BR><BR>
-Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering 9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck.  It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.</blockquote>
+===Aiming the Grenades===
+A fan complained about the difficulty in aiming Grenades and earned a rebuttal from Bashiok in December 2010<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/in-his-stone-house-in-irvine-bashiok-lies-sleeping/ Bashiok Lies Sleeping] — Incgamers 17th Dec 2010</ref>.
-<div style="clear:left;"></div>
+<blue>I think it’s fine. It’s fun and you can pull off some pretty fun trick-moves. Not super practical all the time but I think it will definitely have its strategy. Plus, you can throw a rune on it and change the behavior if you’re having trouble gauging the throw distance.</blue>
+Any sort of  "trick shot" requirement to aiming has long since been removed from the game and aiming with Grenades is very easy in the final release.
-==Skill Rank Table==
-Nothing is known of the higher rank functions. It's assumed more damage is the primary improvement granted by additional points in the skill.
+===Video===
+A video of Grenades can be seen below, courtesy of [http://www.youtube.com/Diablo3Inc the Diablo.IncGamers.com You Tube channel]. This shows the earliest development implementation of the skill, back when they were much more "skittery" on the ground and difficult to aim.
-'''Rank:''' 1/5
+<youtube>4dAZOg0FyoA</youtube>
-Throw out three grenades that explode for X-X fire damage.
-==Runestone Effects==
+==Synergies==
-[[File:Grenades2.jpg|thumb|250px|Tink, tink, tink...boom.]]
+The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:
-None yet known, since [[Runestones]] were not enabled in the Blizzcon 2010 build. It's fairly easy to speculate on some potentials though, based on what we know of normal rune modifications.
+{{skill description header}}
+<skill class="DemonHunter">Steady Aim</skill>
-* [[Alabaster Rune]]: Wild card.
+<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenadier</skill>
-* [[Crimson Rune]]: More damaging (larger?) Grenades.
-* [[Golden Rune]]: Lower [[resource]] cost per skill use.
-* [[Indigo Rune]]: More Grenades per toss.
-* [[Obsidian Rune]]: Wild card.
-Potential wild card rune functions: changed damage type, sticky grenades (would adhere to enemies), homing grenades.
 ==Development==
-This [[skill]] was first shown at [[BlizzCon 2010]] as one of the originals when the [[Demon Hunter]] was unveiled. According to [[Wyatt Cheng]] from a BlizzCon 2010 panel<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/P1/ Diablo 3 Gameplay Panel Transcript] - Incgamers 23/10/10</ref>:
+[[File:Grenades2.jpg|thumb|250px|Tink, tink, tink...boom.]]
+'''Grenades''' was first shown at [[BlizzCon 2010]] as one of the originals when the [[Demon Hunter]] was unveiled. [[Wyatt Cheng]] spoke about the early form of the skill on the Gameplay Panel:[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/]
-<blockquote>Also selling the idea of ranged attacks is Grenades. I love this skill in our game because we have a 3D engine so you can actually bounce grenades off the walls and floors. I think it'll be an awesome way for players to come up with some creative uses for grenades, throwing them around corners. It actually bounces around and it shows, again, and it sells the Demon Hunter's themes - ranged attacks, gadgetry, preparation and planning. This is premeditated demon killing going on. </blockquote>
+<blue>Also selling the idea of ranged attacks is Grenades. I love this skill in our game because we have a 3D engine so you can actually bounce grenades off the walls and floors. I think it'll be an awesome way for players to come up with some creative uses for grenades, throwing them around corners. It actually bounces around and it shows, again, and it sells the Demon Hunter's themes - ranged attacks, gadgetry, preparation and planning. This is premeditated demon killing going on. </blue>
+[[Flux]] reported about his time using the skill in the BlizzCon demo:[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/demon-hunter-screenshots-and-hands-on-report/]
-==Graphics==
+<blockquote>''Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering 9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck.  It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.</blockquote>
-Grenades is a rather subtle skill compared to many that you will find in Diablo III. The Demon Hunter lobs the grenades in an under-hand fashion, the amount of grenades varying depending on the skill rank. The grenades are trailed in the air by a subtle black smoke effect until they detonate one after another.
+===Beta===
+Skill tiers were removed shortly before the [[beta]] started in September 2011, and Grenades became a level 7 skill, but was soon changed to level 11. The skill system was once again overhauled for the [[Beta Patch 13]], and Grenades was classified as a Devices skill and moved up to level 14. For [[Beta Patch 14]], it was re-classified as a Primary skill and moved to level 15.
-The explosions are huge and fiery, filing much of the screen and entirely obscuring enemies in the vicinity.
+<!--
+==Trivia==
+''Hide this section unless there really is some trivia about the skill. Add the skill to the [[:Category:Easter Eggs|Easter Eggs]] category as well if the article contains Easter Egg information.''
+-->
+==Media==
+Grenades can be seen in action on video here:
+* [[Gameplay: Blizzcon 2010]]
-==Media==
+You can find pictures in the Diablo III screenshot and picture gallery:
-You can find pictures in the Diablo 3 screenshot and picture gallery:
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/ Diablo III screenshots and pictures]
-* [http://www.diii.net/gallery/ Diablo 3 screenshots and pictures]
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/search.php?keywords=Grenades&cat=all '''Grenades''' specific gallery contents]
-* [http://www.diii.net/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=all&si=Grenade Grenade images and screens]
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 ==References==
-<references/>
+<span style="font-size: 10px;"><references/></span>
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/P1/ BlizzCon 2010 Gameplay Panel Transcript]
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/demon-hunter-screenshots-and-hands-on-report/ BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter First Impressions]
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/hands-on-from-blizzcon-mega-pvm-report-demon-hunter/P2/ BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter Hands-on Report]
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7960229#post7960229 Zediono's translation of JudgeHype's pre-beta report] — IncGamers 1st Aug 2011
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8009356#post8009356 HardRock's Demon Hunter Skills and Their Rune Effects] — IncGamers 6th Sep 2011
+* [http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/active/ Demon Hunter Active Skills] — Blizzard's Official Diablo III Site
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+[[category:Demon Hunter skills]]
+[[category:Active skills]]

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