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'''Grenades''' is a [[Tier]] 1 [[Demon Hunter]] skill, which requires a character level of 2. It is comprised of a set number of grenades that the Demon Hunter throws at the targeted area, which are able to bounce off of objects using physics. They detonate after a short time.
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[[File:IconGrenades.png|left]]
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'''Grenades''' is a Primary [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 15. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that delay for an instant, then explode in place. Grenades can be cast very quickly, and the potential [[Hatred]] generated by this ability is as high or higher than any of the other bow skills.
  
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Targeting the Grandes is quite easy, the Grenades seem almost flexible, like Nerf toys the way they bounce a bit, but quickly come to a stop and explode where they are aimed. This was not always the case; during development the Grenades were like chunks of bouncy ice and they tended to skitter very quickly, even flying well off the visible screen. Hitting targets at close range was difficult. It is not any longer.
  
  
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==Background==
 
==Background==
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[[File:grenade_splosion.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Grenades in action.]]
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The skill releases a set number of grenades (dependent upon skill rank and possibly runes) into the targeted area. The grenades are physics-enabled, so they are able to bounce around objects like barrels or off of platforms such as walls and doors. After a one second delay, they explode in quick succession, doing splash fire damage to any objects or enemies close by.
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The skill releases a set number of grenades (dependant upon skill rank and possibly runes) into the targeted area. The grenades are physics-enabled, so they are able to bounce around objects like barrels or off of platforms such as walls and doors. After a one second delay, they explode in quick succession, doing splash fire damage to any objects or enemies close by.
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==Skill Rune Effects==
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See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.  
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<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenades</skill>
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<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Tinkerer">Grenades</skill>
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<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Cluster Grenades">Grenades</skill>
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<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Grenade Cache">Grenades</skill>
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<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Stun Grenades">Grenades</skill>
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<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Gas Grenades">Grenades</skill>
  
 
==Skill Design==
 
==Skill Design==
[[Image:grenade_splosion.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Splosions!]]
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Grenades are meant to be spammed and used against small or large groups of enemies. They are not hugely damaging, but they can be issued forth in great quantities, and as they explode shortly after hitting the ground, it's easy to "lead" enemies towards you, steadily throwing the Grenades right at the moving target.  The various skill effects change the style of the grenades and their damage type, but the targeting and function remain consistent throughout the different versions of the skill.
[[Flux]] reports about his time using the skill from BlizzCon 2010<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/demon-hunter-screenshots-and-hands-on-report/ Demon Hunter Screenshots and Hands-On Report] - Incgamers 22/10/10</ref>:<br><br>
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<blockquote>Grenades I enabled with a skill point from leveling up to 10, and they worked like nothing in Diablo 3. At level one it threw out 3 grenades, which spread out slightly, to where you very seldom hit the same monster with two of them. About 1 second after they were thrown, the grenades blew up, dealing decent splash damage to anything there. It was very hard to hit an individual monster though, since the grenades moved very quickly and bounced off of enemies and obstacles. Especially if the monster was nearby.<BR><BR>
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===Aiming the Grenades===
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A fan complained about the difficulty in aiming Grenades and earned a rebuttal from Bashiok in December 2010<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/in-his-stone-house-in-irvine-bashiok-lies-sleeping/ Bashiok Lies Sleeping] Incgamers 17th Dec 2010</ref>.
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<blue>I think it’s fine. It’s fun and you can pull off some pretty fun trick-moves. Not super practical all the time but I think it will definitely have its strategy. Plus, you can throw a rune on it and change the behavior if you’re having trouble gauging the throw distance.</blue>
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Any sort of  "trick shot" requirement to aiming has long since been removed from the game and aiming with Grenades is very easy in the final release.  
  
Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering  9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck.  It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.</blockquote>
 
  
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===Video===
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A video of Grenades can be seen below, courtesy of [http://www.youtube.com/Diablo3Inc the Diablo.IncGamers.com You Tube channel]. This shows the earliest development implementation of the skill, back when they were much more "skittery" on the ground and difficult to aim.
  
==Skill Rank Table==
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<youtube>4dAZOg0FyoA</youtube>
  
'''Rank:''' 1/5
 
Throw out three grenades that explode for X-X fire damage.
 
  
==[[Rune|Skill Rune]] Effects==
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==Synergies==
* None known.
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The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:
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{{skill description header}}
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<skill class="DemonHunter">Steady Aim</skill>
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<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenadier</skill>
  
  
 
==Development==
 
==Development==
This [[skill]] was first shown at [[BlizzCon 2010]] as one of the originals when the [[Demon Hunter]] was unveiled. According to [[Wyatt Cheng]] from a BlizzCon 2010 panel<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/P1/ Diablo 3 Gameplay Panel Transcript] - Incgamers 23/10/10</ref>:
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[[File:Grenades2.jpg|thumb|250px|Tink, tink, tink...boom.]]
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'''Grenades''' was first shown at [[BlizzCon 2010]] as one of the originals when the [[Demon Hunter]] was unveiled. [[Wyatt Cheng]] spoke about the early form of the skill on the Gameplay Panel:[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/]  
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<blue>Also selling the idea of ranged attacks is Grenades. I love this skill in our game because we have a 3D engine so you can actually bounce grenades off the walls and floors. I think it'll be an awesome way for players to come up with some creative uses for grenades, throwing them around corners. It actually bounces around and it shows, again, and it sells the Demon Hunter's themes - ranged attacks, gadgetry, preparation and planning. This is premeditated demon killing going on. </blue>
  
<blockquote>Also selling the idea of ranged attacks is Grenades . I love this skill in our game because we have a 3D engine so you can actually bounce grenades off the walls and floors. I think it'll be an awesome way for players to come up with some creative uses for grenades, throwing them around corners. It actually bounces around and it shows, again, and it sells the Demon Hunter's themes - ranged attacks, gadgetry, preparation and planning. This is premeditated demon killing going on. </blockquote>
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[[Flux]] reported about his time using the skill in the BlizzCon demo:[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/demon-hunter-screenshots-and-hands-on-report/]
  
==Graphics==
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<blockquote>''Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering 9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck.  It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.</blockquote>
  
Grenades is a rather subtle skill compared to many that you will find in Diablo III. The Demon Hunter lobs the grenades in an under-hand fashion, the amount of grenades varying depending on the skill rank. The grenades are trailed in the air by a subtle black smoke effect until they detonate one after another.
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===Beta===
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Skill tiers were removed shortly before the [[beta]] started in September 2011, and Grenades became a level 7 skill, but was soon changed to level 11. The skill system was once again overhauled for the [[Beta Patch 13]], and Grenades was classified as a Devices skill and moved up to level 14. For [[Beta Patch 14]], it was re-classified as a Primary skill and moved to level 15.
  
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==Media==
 
==Media==
You can find pictures in the Diablo 3 screenshot and picture gallery:
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Grenades can be seen in action on video here:
* [http://www.diii.net/gallery/ Diablo 3 screenshots and pictures]
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* [[Gameplay: Blizzcon 2010]]
* [http://www.diii.net/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=all&si=Grenade Grenade images and screens]
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You can find pictures in the Diablo III screenshot and picture gallery:
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* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/ Diablo III screenshots and pictures]
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* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/search.php?keywords=Grenades&cat=all '''Grenades''' specific gallery contents]
  
  
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Image:grenade_close.jpg|A close-up look of the grenade from the [[BlizzCon 2010]] trailer.
 
Image:grenade_close.jpg|A close-up look of the grenade from the [[BlizzCon 2010]] trailer.
 
Image:grenade_bounce.jpg| Grenades in flight and bouncing around.
 
Image:grenade_bounce.jpg| Grenades in flight and bouncing around.
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File:Grenades2.jpg|Grenades explode massively.
 
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==References==
 
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* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/P1/ BlizzCon 2010 Gameplay Panel Transcript]
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* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/demon-hunter-screenshots-and-hands-on-report/ BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter First Impressions]
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* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/hands-on-from-blizzcon-mega-pvm-report-demon-hunter/P2/ BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter Hands-on Report]
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* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7960229#post7960229 Zediono's translation of JudgeHype's pre-beta report] — IncGamers 1st Aug 2011
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* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8009356#post8009356 HardRock's Demon Hunter Skills and Their Rune Effects] — IncGamers 6th Sep 2011
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* [http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/active/ Demon Hunter Active Skills] — Blizzard's Official Diablo III Site
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Latest revision as of 17:23, 13 April 2015

IconGrenades.png

Grenades is a Primary Demon Hunter skill unlocked at Level 15. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that delay for an instant, then explode in place. Grenades can be cast very quickly, and the potential Hatred generated by this ability is as high or higher than any of the other bow skills.

Targeting the Grandes is quite easy, the Grenades seem almost flexible, like Nerf toys the way they bounce a bit, but quickly come to a stop and explode where they are aimed. This was not always the case; during development the Grenades were like chunks of bouncy ice and they tended to skitter very quickly, even flying well off the visible screen. Hitting targets at close range was difficult. It is not any longer.




Background[edit | edit source]

Grenades in action.

The skill releases a set number of grenades (dependent upon skill rank and possibly runes) into the targeted area. The grenades are physics-enabled, so they are able to bounce around objects like barrels or off of platforms such as walls and doors. After a one second delay, they explode in quick succession, doing splash fire damage to any objects or enemies close by.


Skill Rune Effects[edit | edit source]

See the Grenades rune effects page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.

Name Level Description

<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Tinkerer">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Cluster Grenades">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Grenade Cache">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Stun Grenades">Grenades</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Gas Grenades">Grenades</skill>

Skill Design[edit | edit source]

Grenades are meant to be spammed and used against small or large groups of enemies. They are not hugely damaging, but they can be issued forth in great quantities, and as they explode shortly after hitting the ground, it's easy to "lead" enemies towards you, steadily throwing the Grenades right at the moving target. The various skill effects change the style of the grenades and their damage type, but the targeting and function remain consistent throughout the different versions of the skill.


Aiming the Grenades[edit | edit source]

A fan complained about the difficulty in aiming Grenades and earned a rebuttal from Bashiok in December 2010[1].

I think it’s fine. It’s fun and you can pull off some pretty fun trick-moves. Not super practical all the time but I think it will definitely have its strategy. Plus, you can throw a rune on it and change the behavior if you’re having trouble gauging the throw distance.

Any sort of "trick shot" requirement to aiming has long since been removed from the game and aiming with Grenades is very easy in the final release.


Video[edit | edit source]

A video of Grenades can be seen below, courtesy of the Diablo.IncGamers.com You Tube channel. This shows the earliest development implementation of the skill, back when they were much more "skittery" on the ground and difficult to aim.


Synergies[edit | edit source]

The following Demon Hunter passives provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:

Name Level Description

<skill class="DemonHunter">Steady Aim</skill> <skill class="DemonHunter">Grenadier</skill>


Development[edit | edit source]

Tink, tink, tink...boom.

Grenades was first shown at BlizzCon 2010 as one of the originals when the Demon Hunter was unveiled. Wyatt Cheng spoke about the early form of the skill on the Gameplay Panel:[1]

Also selling the idea of ranged attacks is Grenades. I love this skill in our game because we have a 3D engine so you can actually bounce grenades off the walls and floors. I think it'll be an awesome way for players to come up with some creative uses for grenades, throwing them around corners. It actually bounces around and it shows, again, and it sells the Demon Hunter's themes - ranged attacks, gadgetry, preparation and planning. This is premeditated demon killing going on.

Flux reported about his time using the skill in the BlizzCon demo:[2]

Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering 9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck. It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.

Beta[edit | edit source]

Skill tiers were removed shortly before the beta started in September 2011, and Grenades became a level 7 skill, but was soon changed to level 11. The skill system was once again overhauled for the Beta Patch 13, and Grenades was classified as a Devices skill and moved up to level 14. For Beta Patch 14, it was re-classified as a Primary skill and moved to level 15.


Media[edit | edit source]

Grenades can be seen in action on video here:

You can find pictures in the Diablo III screenshot and picture gallery:



References[edit | edit source]

  1. Bashiok Lies Sleeping — Incgamers 17th Dec 2010