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Welcome 2

I had to archive my talk page, it was getting too long. Welcome to the new one, feel free to leave any messages at the bottom of the page!

You can find the old one here. Please don't edit that one! :P If you want to continue on older topics, make a new one and bring it up like if it was a new one. I brought over a few topics that are a bit recent.

Cheers! --Leord 14:34, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

Appreciation

Thank you for the touch-ups you did to the Alchemist page. As an English major, I was in agony over making such a mistake as putting "theirselves". If there are any other problems with the page, please feel free to correct them. I have not had much experience in writing webpages, but I am learning. Also, if you have any ideas, I am very open to imput. I do have a question: Is diablowiki.net connected to diii.net? I have noticed that my Alchemist page has appeared there as well, I wanted to make sure they were allowed to do so. -- 21:25, 8 July 2009 Kire

You're quite welcome! :) Any edits in the wiki, you can get help in the help section. As for Talk page comments, you can simply sign them with the press of a key, more info here.

Diii.net is running DiabloWiki, but the contribs here does not necessarily have any connections with Diii.net. As for classes, do you mean this one? Doesn't look like it's the same, other than the name. :) As for "allowed", I am not sure what you mean. It's the internet, and you probably don't have a trademark for Alchemist. ;) Other than that, we don't impose any special user rights other than normal law. --Leord 11:49, 9 July 2009 (CEST)

For what I can find, anything on this Wiki is completely uncopyrighted, so it's basically right-to-copy.

Somewhat related is the message above the Summary bar; "(see Project:Copyrights for details)". Redlink, oops? ;) --Vipermagi 15:31, 9 July 2009 (CEST)

I know there are some rights reserved, for legal reasons etc. But over all, it's a pretty open affair :) --Leord 15:41, 9 July 2009 (CEST)

Thanks again for clearing that up! And I do recognize that people are free to copy and edit anything on the site, so I'm not trying to lay claim to it. Sorry if I sounded like a jealous user -I think I was just shocked to see links to the Alchemist page on other sites so quickly. I need to also thank you for the link you gave me to the forum at Diii.net on Alchemists. I am now in touch with users with similar interests to my own! --Kire 11:27, 9 July 2009 (CEST)

Cool! Yeah, things I do tend to get popular quick. Great to be back online as well. Been a horrible 2 odd weeks! --Leord 13:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

Skill template

Holidays are boring.
Do you know approx. what skill pages you've created? I can spend some hours creating pages, since I have little better to do :P --Vipermagi 00:02, 20 July 2009 (CEST)

While I possibly have your attention: Special:Contributions/AlgetMonco → Vandal that dislikes you. --Vipermagi 11:29, 20 July 2009 (CEST)

Noticed. He's blocked now. I don't know if that helps. thatnks for keeping my talk page clean. Need to start archiving now as well :P

As for the skills, it's pretty easy to see which ones are made by looking at the skill navboxes for the wizard. I am literally doing one tree at the time, going through it from first to last :) --Leord 13:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

When I get some free time again (preparing for a LAN weekend atm :) ) I'll start with the Barbarian. *writes a note on his desktop* --Vipermagi 14:02, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

Absolutely awesome. As we finalize these, we'll start making more wiki updates on the front of Diii.net as well. We took a big hit for the downtime, no time to spare to get it back! --Leord 14:04, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

Synnargeez

Conjured_Health#Synergies. CH synergizes with Mirror Image, not the other way around; I figured that header would be for skills that synergize with the skill you're looking at? Makes more sense to me. What's your thoughts on this case? --Vipermagi 19:24, 6 August 2009 (CEST)

Well, my idea was to have the term "synergy" to basically list all spells that are directly related. I'm using an old term because people are familiar with it. I am fairly certain there will be no "generally synergistic" spells like in Diablo II. You will have the 1 Rank spells (for Wizard) and then the 15 rank Skills. Possibly 2-15 varies between skills, but that basic design. A bit like skills and talents in one tree, talking in WoW terms (I should make an article about that!). --Leord 14:30, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

What do you think? I am very open for suggestions at this stage :) --Leord 14:30, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

I just find listing affected skills on passives a bit redundant, since the direct effect is listed in both Background and Description.

Also, on skill ranks: Base will be 5 max, and it's possible to get a higher cap (10 and 15) for an X amount of skills (unknown X). --Vipermagi 14:51, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

We'll see about the base. Most Wizard skills are 15. As for listing, I like it. It's like the official list with all things affecting or affected by it. If someone wants to reference a spell, it's great to have it in a standardised place, if you can't be bothered to look for the link in BG/Description etc. --Leord 14:58, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

A Bashiok quote on skill point caps:

One important addition to this is the skill caps themselves. Currently we're envisioning the majority of skills to be capped at 5 points, to begin with. As a form of progression we're planning for players to be able to increase the point caps of skills. More than likely to a maximum of 15. It's a system that's still under heavy design, but the fact of choosing and increasing key skills beyond their initial cap is important to this new unified tier system.</pre>

So, most Wizard skills are actually 5 :P

As for the list: Okay. It's not like I'll die over the redundancy :) --Vipermagi 15:25, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

Cool. We'll we will have to update this as we move along. Could you make a short paragraph in the skills article about the tier system? --Leord 15:27, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

Skill / Skill tree / Tier

Skill#Earlier_Info has a link to Skill_tree which has info on Skill tiers.

We could either split up Skill tree and Tier into two articles, or keep it on one page. I'm fine with either (leaning slightly towards one page; A lot of small pages tend to be harder to navigate). Pick your poison. --Vipermagi 19:33, 7 August 2009 (CEST)

I was almost thinking we should include all pages to one, like skills and skill trees really are very closely related. either that, or a lot more interlinking and some sort of navigation. That page would be pretty long though...

If we just try to summarize the quotes a bit (since wikipedia and other wikis don't really quote much anyway), it would make the article a lot shorter... What are your thoughts? As it is now, it's definitely a little bit too confusing. --Leord 11:32, 10 August 2009 (CEST)

Just dumping the info on both pages together would make a huge article, yes, but it would have a ton of redundancy too. The page won't be all that long once you remove all the duplicate information (that's another pro of having 1 page over several: Less repeated info :) ). Then again, when is a page long, and when is it not?

We could make one page in the userspace or wherever to see how long it'd be after removing all redundancy. It would also be a better page for format testing than the page the site's visitors read ;)

In the end I'm for one page and redirects to that page (and headers on that page if they work). --Vipermagi 13:58, 10 August 2009 (CEST)

Oki, I agree. You think you got tome to do it? My next major DW push will be skills again. --17:14, 10 August 2009 Leord

I have a lot of Tomes to do stuff ;) Will get to skill pages tomorrow. by the way.

User:Vipermagi/Skill and User:Vipermagi/Skill2. The first is done (unless there's information missing currently?), the latter is not (yet). --Vipermagi 21:15, 10 August 2009 (CEST)

Looks very good. We will implement it a bit later then. :) One thing I didn't understand: What's left to do? --Leord 15:12, 12 August 2009 (CEST)

Skill table

Power of the Battlemaster now just has a bulleted list of it's effect. The header is misleading though, as it promised a table. Ideas? --Vipermagi 18:19, 11 August 2009 (CEST)

Yes, that's true. The idea is to have a table there in the future, and a bullet point list is what we do before we have proper info. I'd say we keep the name atm. Just so it fits when it's all "upgraded" properly.

On a sidenote, don't write <void> on Description. Just write what is known. Look at the Boilerplate:Skill/copy article, and use that as inspiration. You can always write something. Also, a little blurb at the top of the page is good as well. Just take the Boilerplate:Skill/copy one, and replace class, skills, and then add a few words at the end of it :) This will also make sure to put the infobox underneath the ad.

You can also add "(presumed)" for rank 4 and 5 of the skill, like I did with many of the arcane skills. If you have 3 ranks info, then you can probably figure out the other ranks stats. --Leord 15:12, 12 August 2009 (CEST)

Im back, baby!

Hey leord, im back... was absent because there werent any juicy news about diablo 3, so i went away... im like a bear, i do my thing during specific times... Anyway i have a few suggestions, then im off to editing some articles and adding new ones...http://www.diablowiki.net/skins/common/images/button_sig.png

A: This wiki needs an IRC channel, hosted on quakenet, if possible, it would be much easier for editors/people to go to the channel, and ask questions there... like how to edit articles, or to report any mistakes that we might have made... please say yes

B: There is no B...

C: No C too...

-- 12:53, 20 August 2009 DxAxxxTyriel

Hey man, nice to see you! :) At the moment, we don't have a IRC channel, but some sort of chat will come up later on. At the moment, I am mostly in the #StarcraftWire channel on Quakenet! --Leord 16:54, 20 August 2009 (CEST)

Monk

Hey dude, you mind if i do the Monk Class? i saw the Diablo 3 panel and WoW:C panels on Ustream, from a guy who was streaming the Pay-per-view thing.... can i? i have many pictures. --DxAxxxTyriel 00:53, 22 August 2009 (CEST)

Dude! Bloody good job on the Monk! And never ask permission to do anything in the wiki ;) You are always free to do anything (except mupping up content, ofc)! --Leord 12:19, 24 August 2009 (CEST)

Thx mate. --DxAxxxTyriel 15:56, 24 August 2009 (CEST)

Meli back....

Hi Leord,

I am back to do updates to both Wizard and Monk, from the large news posts on diii.net which detail the full skill trees. Alot to throw out and alot to add. I will leave all the skill pages that are becoming obsolete for the moment just as they. Might be reuseable when they change skill setup again. Otherwise i am updateing all the related pages and also navigation boxes where needed.

Been fiddling with Witch doctor and Wizard already. Will take 1-2 evenings to get it all done though.

regards, meli --Melianor 13:57, 31 August 2009 (CEST)