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‎Skill Rune Effects

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2012-05-27T01:03:37Z

MrFrye: new skill rune table

2012-05-19T00:08:55Z

new skill rune table

MrFrye: beta patch 15 update

2012-04-06T04:05:18Z

beta patch 15 update

Flux at 11:57, 18 March 2012

2012-03-18T11:57:13Z

Maurish: Linked with DB

2012-03-03T16:24:25Z

Linked with DB

Maurish at 17:42, 19 January 2012

2012-01-19T17:42:22Z

Elly: rune rank change

2012-01-08T02:39:29Z

rune rank change

Maurish at 10:40, 23 September 2011

2011-09-23T10:40:26Z

Maurish at 10:34, 23 September 2011

2011-09-23T10:34:53Z

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 <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Tinkerer">Grenades</skill>
 <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Cluster Grenades">Grenades</skill>
-<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Fire Bomb">Grenades</skill>
+<skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Grenade Cache">Grenades</skill>
 <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Stun Grenades">Grenades</skill>
 <skill class="DemonHunter" rune="Gas Grenades">Grenades</skill>
 ==Skill Design==

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 [[File:IconGrenades.png|left]]
-'''Grenades''' is a Primary [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 15. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that skitter along the dungeon floor, bouncing off walls and through doorways. They detonate after about a one-second delay, dealing substantial fire damage to any targets in the vicinity.
+'''Grenades''' is a Primary [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 15. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that delay for an instant, then explode in place. Grenades can be cast very quickly, and the potential [[Hatred]] generated by this ability is as high or higher than any of the other bow skills.
 <br><br>__TOC__
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 ==Skill Rune Effects==
-The following is a very quick summary. See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.
+See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.
 {{skill description header}}
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 ==Skill Design==
-The Demon Hunter tosses three of the spiked grenades with one point in the skill. The toss determines how far they are aimed; clicking very near the Demon Hunter just drops them, while pointing at the edge of the screen hurls them very quickly, to bounce well out of sight (barring walls or other obstructions.) The grenades pass freely through enemies and other players, but are fully controlled by the physics of the dungeon levels; they bounce off of walls and objects, and will fall over the sides of levels where there are breaks in railings, etc.
+Grenades are meant to be spammed and used against small or large groups of enemies. They are not hugely damaging, but they can be issued forth in great quantities, and as they explode shortly after hitting the ground, it's easy to "lead" enemies towards you, steadily throwing the Grenades right at the moving target.  The various skill effects change the style of the grenades and their damage type, but the targeting and function remain consistent throughout the different versions of the skill.
-===Controlling the Grenades===
 A fan complained about the difficulty in aiming Grenades and earned a rebuttal from Bashiok in December 2010<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/in-his-stone-house-in-irvine-bashiok-lies-sleeping/ Bashiok Lies Sleeping] — Incgamers 17th Dec 2010</ref>.
 <blue>I think it’s fine. It’s fun and you can pull off some pretty fun trick-moves. Not super practical all the time but I think it will definitely have its strategy. Plus, you can throw a rune on it and change the behavior if you’re having trouble gauging the throw distance.</blue>
 ===Video===
-A video of Grenades can be seen below, courtesy of [http://www.youtube.com/Diablo3Inc the Diablo.IncGamers.com You Tube channel].
+A video of Grenades can be seen below, courtesy of [http://www.youtube.com/Diablo3Inc the Diablo.IncGamers.com You Tube channel]. This shows the earliest development implementation of the skill, back when they were much more "skittery" on the ground and difficult to aim.
 <youtube>4dAZOg0FyoA</youtube>
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 ==Development==
 [[File:Grenades2.jpg|thumb|250px|Tink, tink, tink...boom.]]
-'''Grenades''' was first shown at [[BlizzCon 2010]] as one of the originals when the [[Demon Hunter]] was unveiled. According to [[Wyatt Cheng]] from the Gameplay Panel:[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/P1/]
+'''Grenades''' was first shown at [[BlizzCon 2010]] as one of the originals when the [[Demon Hunter]] was unveiled. [[Wyatt Cheng]] spoke about the early form of the skill on the Gameplay Panel:[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-gameplay-panel-transcript/]
 <blue>Also selling the idea of ranged attacks is Grenades. I love this skill in our game because we have a 3D engine so you can actually bounce grenades off the walls and floors. I think it'll be an awesome way for players to come up with some creative uses for grenades, throwing them around corners. It actually bounces around and it shows, again, and it sells the Demon Hunter's themes - ranged attacks, gadgetry, preparation and planning. This is premeditated demon killing going on. </blue>

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 The following is a very quick summary. See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.
 <skill class="DemonHunter">Grenades</skill>
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 ==Synergies==
-The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades:
+The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:
-{{Passive skills header}}
+{{skill description header}}
-{{Demon Hunter Passive Steady Aim}}
+<skill class="DemonHunter">Steady Aim</skill>
-{{Demon Hunter Passive Grenadier}}
+<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenadier</skill>
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-{{Skill navbox Diablo III|DH}}
+{{Skill navbox Diablo III|DH|primary}}
 [[category:Demon Hunter skills]]
 [[category:Active skills]]

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 [[File:IconGrenades.png|left]]
-'''Grenades''' is a Devices [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 14. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that skitter along the dungeon floor, bouncing off walls and through doorways.
+'''Grenades''' is a Primary [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 15. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that skitter along the dungeon floor, bouncing off walls and through doorways. They detonate after about a one-second delay, dealing substantial fire damage to any targets in the vicinity.
 <br><br>__TOC__
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-==Skillrune Effects==
+==Skill Rune Effects==
 The following is a very quick summary. See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.
 <skill class="DemonHunter">Grenades</skill>
 ==Skill Design==
 The Demon Hunter tosses three of the spiked grenades with one point in the skill. The toss determines how far they are aimed; clicking very near the Demon Hunter just drops them, while pointing at the edge of the screen hurls them very quickly, to bounce well out of sight (barring walls or other obstructions.) The grenades pass freely through enemies and other players, but are fully controlled by the physics of the dungeon levels; they bounce off of walls and objects, and will fall over the sides of levels where there are breaks in railings, etc.
 ===Controlling the Grenades===
-A fan complained about the difficulty in aiming Grenades and earned a rebuttal from Bashiok in December 2010<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/in-his-stone-house-in-irvine-bashiok-lies-sleeping/ Bashiok Lies Sleeping] -- Incgamers 17th Dec 2010</ref>.
+A fan complained about the difficulty in aiming Grenades and earned a rebuttal from Bashiok in December 2010<ref>[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/in-his-stone-house-in-irvine-bashiok-lies-sleeping/ Bashiok Lies Sleeping] — Incgamers 17th Dec 2010</ref>.
 <blue>I think it’s fine. It’s fun and you can pull off some pretty fun trick-moves. Not super practical all the time but I think it will definitely have its strategy. Plus, you can throw a rune on it and change the behavior if you’re having trouble gauging the throw distance.</blue>
 ==Synergies==
-The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:
+The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades:
 {{Passive skills header}}
 {{Demon Hunter Passive Grenadier}}
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 <blockquote>''Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering 9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck.  It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.</blockquote>
-Skill tiers were removed for the [[July 2011 Press Event]], and Grenades became a level 7 skill, but was soon changed to level 11. The skill system was once again overhauled for the [[Beta Patch 13]], and Grenades was classified as a Devices skill and moved up to level 14.
+===Beta===
 ==Media==
 Grenades can be seen in action on video here:
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 * [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/demon-hunter-screenshots-and-hands-on-report/ BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter First Impressions]
 * [http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/hands-on-from-blizzcon-mega-pvm-report-demon-hunter/P2/ BlizzCon 2010 Demon Hunter Hands-on Report]
-* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7960229#post7960229 Zediono's translation of JudgeHype's pre-beta report] -- IncGamers 1st Aug 2011
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7960229#post7960229 Zediono's translation of JudgeHype's pre-beta report] — IncGamers 1st Aug 2011
-* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8009356#post8009356 HardRock's Demon Hunter Skills and Their Rune Effects] -- IncGamers 6th Sep 2011
+* [http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8009356#post8009356 HardRock's Demon Hunter Skills and Their Rune Effects] — IncGamers 6th Sep 2011
-* [http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/active/ Demon Hunter Active Skills] -- Diablo III 12th Sep 2011
+* [http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/active/ Demon Hunter Active Skills] — Blizzard's Official Diablo III Site

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 ===Grenades Video===
 A video of Greandes can be seen below, courtesy of [http://www.youtube.com/Diablo3Inc the Diablo.IncGamers.com You Tube channel].
 <youtube>4dAZOg0FyoA</youtube>

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 [[File:IconGrenades.png|left]]
-'''Grenades''' is a Hatred Generating [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 11. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that skitter along the dungeon floor, bouncing off walls and through doorways.
+'''Grenades''' is a Devices [[Demon Hunter skill]] unlocked at [[clvl|Level]] 14. When using this skill the Demon Hunter tosses out three small metal objects that skitter along the dungeon floor, bouncing off walls and through doorways.
 They detonate after about a one-second delay, dealing substantial fire damage to any targets in the vicinity. Higher levels in the skill raise their damage, and can be combined with [[Runestones]] to turn the Grenades into a formidable support skill.
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 <br><br>__TOC__
 ==Background==
-[[File:grenade_splosion.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Grenades in action]]
+[[File:grenade_splosion.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Grenades in action.]]
 The skill releases a set number of grenades (dependent upon skill rank and possibly runes) into the targeted area. The grenades are physics-enabled, so they are able to bounce around objects like barrels or off of platforms such as walls and doors. After a one second delay, they explode in quick succession, doing splash fire damage to any objects or enemies close by.
-==Skill Effects==
+==Skillrune Effects==
-The following is a very quick list. See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough summary of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.
+The following is a very quick summary. See the [[Grenades rune effects]] page for a more thorough description of rune effects, or any of the individual rune pages for numbers, screenshots, blue quotes, and much more.
-{{Active skills header}}
+<skill class="DemonHunter">Grenades</skill>
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 ==Synergies==
 The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:
 {{Demon Hunter Passive Grenadier}}
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 <blockquote>''Grenades was best used against mobs, since you could throw them very quickly, scattering 9 or 12 of the grenades across the mid-range of the screen, dealing good AoE to everything in the vicinity. They could be thrown quite a distance also, well off the screen, though aiming that way was just about pure luck.  It would have been awesome in the arena, though. The second level of the dungeon in the demo featured numerous jail cells, which often had half a dozen skeletons and skeletal shieldmen in them. They were lots of fun with Grenades, since the bombs would bounce off the walls and stay where you wanted them to, then detonate with great effect.</blockquote>
-Skill tiers were removed for the [[July 2011 Press Event]], and Grenades became a level 7 skill.
+Skill tiers were removed for the [[July 2011 Press Event]], and Grenades became a level 7 skill, but was soon changed to level 11. The skill system was once again overhauled for the [[Beta Patch 13]], and Grenades was classified as a Devices skill and moved up to level 14.

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	==Synergies==		==Synergies==
−	* No [[synergies]] with any of the [[Demon Hunter passives]] ~~are yet known.~~	+	The following [[Demon Hunter passives]] provide a benefit to Grenades, runed or not:
		+	{{Demon Hunter Passive Grenadier}}

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 {{Demon Hunter Skillrune Cluster Grenades}}
 {{Demon Hunter Skillrune Fire Bomb}}
-{{center|Note: Information is based on a level 60 character and rank 7 runestones.}}
+{{center|Note: Information is based on a level 60 character and rank 4 runestones.}}