Barbarian cities - Revision history

Elly at 02:14, 12 November 2011

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Elly: /* Bastion's Keep */ typo

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‎Bastion's Keep: typo

Elly at 18:51, 3 November 2011

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Cogo at 11:36, 14 June 2010

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TheWanderer at 23:35, 31 October 2009

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Leord at 17:09, 12 October 2009

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Leord at 17:03, 12 October 2009

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Leord: formatting

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Leord: Barbarian Cities moved to Barbarian cities: Capital -> Nominal

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Barbarian Cities moved to Barbarian cities: Capital -> Nominal

Dragonhelmuk: Article created with five sections - Intro, Harrogath, Sescheron, Bastion's Keep and Implications

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Article created with five sections - Intro, Harrogath, Sescheron, Bastion's Keep and Implications

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=Introduction=

<blockquote>"To better protect their lands from outside forces they adopted a nomadic lifestyle, frequently moving within the confines of the Steppes and maintaining few permanent settlements." - {{iw|Diablo_2_Manual Diablo 2 Manual}} </blockquote>

Since the time of the [[Bul-Kathos]] of the [[nephalem]] the Barbarians have adopted their lifestyle to the task of guarding the [[Worldstone]]. However, to achieve this they did form some permanent cities and towns in strategic locations. What has happened to these settlements since the end of Diablo 2 can only be infered from hints, and is a source of contention among fans. [http://www.diii.net/blog/comments/the-return-of-harrogath/]

=Harrogath=

The best known of these cities is probably {{iw|Harrogath Harrogath}}, which was a town at the foot of [[Mount Arreat]] forming one of the last barriers of defence. It was the safe [[town]] area of {{iw|Act_5 Act 5}}, and withstood the host of [[Baal]] when the elders (except {{iw|Nihlathak Nihlathak}}) sacrificed themselves casting a forbidden druid spell which blocked demonic energies from entering. However, it was later destroyed in the powers unleashed by the shattering of the Worldstone.

One confusing aspect of the destruction of Harrogath, is that even though it was apparently destroyed by the Worldstone, at the end of Diablo 2 you can go back and talk to the people about it. They seem relatively happy about the outcome, although there is more than a little confusion about the imminent destruction of the Worldstone:

<blockquote>"You have done the impossible, hero. Your defeat of the last of the three prime evils is a great victory for the light. Strange that you say the Worldstone must be destroyed. The prophecy said nothing about that. Perhaps all we have fought for will be lost. Or, perhaps, we will never need fight again." - {{iw|Anya Anya}}, Diablo 2x final speech </blockquote>

This is at the heart of the controversy about [[Tyrael]]. In any case, no-one seems to be evacuating the city, so we can only assume that no-one knew it would explode. On the other hand, we know of at least two survivors of the destruction of the city - the Barbarian, and [[Deckard_Cain|Cain]], so maybe the mountain exploded in parts, and the residents had time to evacuate through a portal or [[waypoint]].

=Sescheron=

{{iw|Sescheron Sescheron}} was the capital city of the Barbarians. The people of Harrogath "lost contact" with it just before they were sieged by Baal, Baal threw a huge army at it in the Act 5 cinematics trailer, and it was probably destroyed like this since Baal later made it to Harrogath, and it took both ancient wards and the intervention of the main character at his strongest to stop this last stronghold being destroyed by Baal's surviving forces.

=Bastion's Keep=

[[Bastion's_Keep|Bastion's Keep]] was added to the game as part of the Diablo 3 lore, and according to the map it's on what's (as of the start of Diablo 3) the south coast between the mountains and the [[Sharvel_Wastes|Sharvel Wastes ]]. [[Abd al-Hazir]] visited it and calls it "ancient", but he also says he didn't see any barbarians there.

=Implications=

All the great Barbarian cities seem to have been abandoned. At first it seems probable that Baal's armies, combined with the power unleashed in the shattering of the Worldstone destroyed the cities, but there is at least one other possibility, as Abd al-Hazir reports on his search for Barbarian warriors:

<blockquote>"If there are any barbarians left alive, they must truly be without hope. Perhaps this is the genesis of the rumors of monstrous things reported to resemble the barbarians in size and ferocity, but that are in reality nothing more than unreasoning, inhuman beasts. Could the destruction of not only their home but also their very beliefs have actually brought this magnificent race so low?" [[Writings_of_Abd_al-Hazir:_Entry_no._0025|Writings of Abd al-Hazir: Entry no. 0025]] </blockquote>

This seems unlikely, since there is at least one Barbarian who has not gone mad - the [[Barbarian]] hero. However, this could be put down to his own personal history and experience.

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 ==Bastion's Keep==
-[[Bastion's_Keep|Bastion's Keep]] was added to the game as part of the Diablo 3 lore, and according to the map it's on what's (as of the start of [[Diablo 3]]) the south coast between the mountains and the [[Sharvel_Wastes|Sharvel Wastes ]]. [[Abd al-Hazir]] visited it and calls it "ancient", but he also says he didn't see any [[Barbarian]]s there.
+[[Bastion's_Keep|Bastion's Keep]] was added to the game as part of the Diablo 3 lore, and according to the map it's on what's (as of the start of [[Diablo 3]]) the south coast between the mountains and the [[Sharvel_Wilds|Sharvel Wilds]]. [[Abd al-Hazir]] visited it and calls it "ancient", but he also says he didn't see any [[Barbarian]]s there.
 ==Speculation==

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−	The '''Barbarian cities''' were once populated by this proud race of warriors, but have been abandoned after the destruction of the [[Worldstone]] and [[Mount Arreat].	+	The '''Barbarian cities''' were once populated by this proud race of warriors, but have been abandoned after the destruction of the [[Worldstone]] and [[Mount Arreat]].

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 ==Harrogath==
-The best known of these cities is probably {{iw|Harrogath Harrogath}}, which was a town at the foot of [[Mount Arreat]] forming one of the last barriers of defence. It was the safe [[town]] area of {{iw|Act_5 Act 5}}, and withstood the host of [[Baal]] when the elders (except {{iw|Nihlathak Nihlathak}}) sacrificed themselves casting a forbidden druid spell which blocked [[demon]]ic energies from entering. However, it was later destroyed in the powers unleashed by the shattering of the [[Worldstone]].
+The best known of these cities is probably [[Harrogath]], which was a town at the foot of [[Mount Arreat]] forming one of the last barriers of defence. It was the safe [[town]] area of {{iw|Act_5 Act 5}}, and withstood the host of [[Baal]] when the elders (except {{iw|Nihlathak Nihlathak}}) sacrificed themselves casting a forbidden druid spell which blocked [[demon]]ic energies from entering. However, it was later destroyed in the powers unleashed by the shattering of the [[Worldstone]].
 One confusing aspect of the destruction of Harrogath, is that even though it was apparently destroyed by the Worldstone, at the end of Diablo 2 you can go back and talk to the people about it. They seem relatively happy about the outcome, although there is more than a little confusion about the imminent destruction of the Worldstone:
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 ==Sescheron==
-{{iw|Sescheron Sescheron}} was the capital city of the Barbarians. The people of Harrogath "lost contact" with it just before they were sieged by Baal, Baal threw a huge army at it in the Act 5 cinematics trailer, and it was probably destroyed like this since Baal later made it to Harrogath, and it took both ancient wards and the intervention of the main character at his strongest to stop this last stronghold being destroyed by Baal's surviving forces.
+[[Sescheron]] was the capital city of the Barbarians. The people of [[Harrogath]] "lost contact" with it just before they were sieged by [[Baal]], who threw a huge army at it in the Act 5 cinematics trailer. It's possible the city was destroyed since Baal later made it to Harrogath, and it took both ancient wards and the intervention of the main character at his strongest to stop this last stronghold being destroyed by Baal's surviving forces.
 ==Bastion's Keep==
-[[Bastion's_Keep|Bastion's Keep]] was added to the game as part of the Diablo 3 lore, and according to the map it's on what's (as of the start of Diablo 3) the south coast between the mountains and the [[Sharvel_Wastes|Sharvel Wastes ]]. [[Abd al-Hazir]] visited it and calls it "ancient", but he also says he didn't see any barbarians there.
+[[Bastion's_Keep|Bastion's Keep]] was added to the game as part of the Diablo 3 lore, and according to the map it's on what's (as of the start of [[Diablo 3]]) the south coast between the mountains and the [[Sharvel_Wastes|Sharvel Wastes ]]. [[Abd al-Hazir]] visited it and calls it "ancient", but he also says he didn't see any [[Barbarian]]s there.
-==Implications==
+==Speculation==
 All the great Barbarian cities seem to have been abandoned. At first it seems probable that Baal's armies, combined with the power unleashed in the shattering of the Worldstone destroyed the cities, but there is at least one other possibility, as Abd al-Hazir reports on his search for Barbarian warriors:

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 ==Introduction==
-::''"To better protect their lands from outside forces they adopted a nomadic lifestyle, frequently moving within the confines of the Steppes and maintaining few permanent settlements."'' - [[Diablo 2 Manual]]
+::''"To better protect their lands from outside forces they adopted a nomadic lifestyle, frequently moving within the confines of the Steppes and maintaining few permanent settlements."'' - [[Diablo II Manual]]
 Since the time of the [[Bul-Kathos]] of the [[nephalem]] the Barbarians have adopted their lifestyle to the task of guarding the [[Worldstone]]. However, to achieve this they did form some permanent cities and towns in strategic locations. What has happened to these settlements since the end of Diablo 2 can only be infered from hints, and is a source of contention among fans. [http://www.diii.net/blog/comments/the-return-of-harrogath/]

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-=Introduction=
+The '''Barbarian cities''' were once populated by this proud race of warriors, but have been abandoned after the destruction of the [[Worldstone]] and [[Mount Arreat].
-<blockquote>"To better protect their lands from outside forces they adopted a nomadic lifestyle, frequently moving within the confines of the Steppes and maintaining few permanent settlements." - {{iw|Diablo_2_Manual Diablo 2 Manual}} </blockquote>
 Since the time of the [[Bul-Kathos]] of the [[nephalem]] the Barbarians have adopted their lifestyle to the task of guarding the [[Worldstone]]. However, to achieve this they did form some permanent cities and towns in strategic locations. What has happened to these settlements since the end of Diablo 2 can only be infered from hints, and is a source of contention among fans. [http://www.diii.net/blog/comments/the-return-of-harrogath/]
-The best known of these cities is probably {{iw|Harrogath Harrogath}}, which was a town at the foot of [[Mount Arreat]] forming one of the last barriers of defence. It was the safe [[town]] area of {{iw|Act_5 Act 5}}, and withstood the host of [[Baal]] when the elders (except {{iw|Nihlathak Nihlathak}}) sacrificed themselves casting a forbidden druid spell which blocked demonic energies from entering. However, it was later destroyed in the powers unleashed by the shattering of the Worldstone.
+==Harrogath==
 One confusing aspect of the destruction of Harrogath, is that even though it was apparently destroyed by the Worldstone, at the end of Diablo 2 you can go back and talk to the people about it. They seem relatively happy about the outcome, although there is more than a little confusion about the imminent destruction of the Worldstone:
-<blockquote>"You have done the impossible, hero. Your defeat of the last of the three prime evils is a great victory for the light. Strange that you say the Worldstone must be destroyed. The prophecy said nothing about that. Perhaps all we have fought for will be lost. Or, perhaps, we will never need fight again." - {{iw|Anya Anya}}, Diablo 2x final speech </blockquote>
+::''"You have done the impossible, hero. Your defeat of the last of the three prime evils is a great victory for the light. Strange that you say the Worldstone must be destroyed. The prophecy said nothing about that. Perhaps all we have fought for will be lost. Or, perhaps, we will never need fight again."'' - {{iw|Anya Anya}}, Diablo 2x final speech
 This is at the heart of the controversy about [[Tyrael]]. In any case, no-one seems to be evacuating the city, so we can only assume that no-one knew it would explode. On the other hand, we know of at least two survivors of the destruction of the city - the Barbarian, and [[Deckard_Cain|Cain]], so maybe the mountain exploded in parts, and the residents had time to evacuate through a portal or [[waypoint]].
 {{iw|Sescheron Sescheron}} was the capital city of the Barbarians. The people of Harrogath "lost contact" with it just before they were sieged by Baal, Baal threw a huge army at it in the Act 5 cinematics trailer, and it was probably destroyed like this since Baal later made it to Harrogath, and it took both ancient wards and the intervention of the main character at his strongest to stop this last stronghold being destroyed by Baal's surviving forces.
 [[Bastion's_Keep|Bastion's Keep]] was added to the game as part of the Diablo 3 lore, and according to the map it's on what's (as of the start of Diablo 3) the south coast between the mountains and the [[Sharvel_Wastes|Sharvel Wastes ]]. [[Abd al-Hazir]] visited it and calls it "ancient", but he also says he didn't see any barbarians there.
 All the great Barbarian cities seem to have been abandoned. At first it seems probable that Baal's armies, combined with the power unleashed in the shattering of the Worldstone destroyed the cities, but there is at least one other possibility, as Abd al-Hazir reports on his search for Barbarian warriors:
-<blockquote>"If there are any barbarians left alive, they must truly be without hope. Perhaps this is the genesis of the rumors of monstrous things reported to resemble the barbarians in size and ferocity, but that are in reality nothing more than unreasoning, inhuman beasts. Could the destruction of not only their home but also their very beliefs have actually brought this magnificent race so low?" [[Writings_of_Abd_al-Hazir:_Entry_no._0025|Writings of Abd al-Hazir: Entry no. 0025]] </blockquote>
+::''"If there are any barbarians left alive, they must truly be without hope. Perhaps this is the genesis of the rumors of monstrous things reported to resemble the barbarians in size and ferocity, but that are in reality nothing more than unreasoning, inhuman beasts. Could the destruction of not only their home but also their very beliefs have actually brought this magnificent race so low?"'' [[Writings_of_Abd_al-Hazir:_Entry_no._0025|Writings of Abd al-Hazir: Entry no. 0025]]
 This seems unlikely, since there is at least one Barbarian who has not gone mad - the [[Barbarian]] hero. However, this could be put down to his own personal history and experience.

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