Art controversy - Revision history

DeathTBO: /* The End of the Art Controversy? */

2015-04-11T00:37:53Z

‎The End of the Art Controversy?

Flux: /* Blizzard Changes Art Based on Feedback */

2012-09-14T23:52:02Z

‎Blizzard Changes Art Based on Feedback

Flux: /* How it "Should" Look */

2011-09-02T01:13:57Z

‎How it "Should" Look

Flux: /* Responses to Complaints */

2011-01-29T14:33:25Z

‎Responses to Complaints

Flux: /* Responses to Complaints */

2011-01-29T14:29:00Z

‎Responses to Complaints

Flux: /* Fan Reactions */

2010-09-07T13:48:44Z

‎Fan Reactions

Flux: /* Blizzard Changes Art Based on Feedback */

2010-02-24T16:23:24Z

‎Blizzard Changes Art Based on Feedback

Newbie at 17:59, 11 February 2010

2010-02-11T17:59:18Z

Flux at 00:21, 10 February 2010

2010-02-10T00:21:23Z

Flux: /* Ex-Blizzard Response */

2009-12-31T20:36:49Z

‎Ex-Blizzard Response

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 ==The End of the Art Controversy?==
-In the second week of September, a Diablo fan called Sozou [http://www.diii.net/n/692572/the-end-of-the-art-controversy posted] a completely modified gameplay video of Diablo III with desaturated and "gritted" moving art in high resolution, showing what the dev team could do. With all the possible screenshot modifications and the like, it seems unlikely any more thorough example of what some fans would like can be made. He also gave Diii.net a short interview.
+In the second week of September, a Diablo fan called Sozou posted a completely modified gameplay video of Diablo III with desaturated and "gritted" moving art in high resolution, showing what the dev team could do. With all the possible screenshot modifications and the like, it seems unlikely any more thorough example of what some fans would like can be made. He also gave Diii.net a short interview.
-* [http://www.diii.net/n/692572/the-end-of-the-art-controversy Stream video, summary and interview]
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-nS-Pyu-a8 YouTube video from Sozou showing the desaturated colors]
 Blizzard have not responded to this new media yet, but as the hype slowly has diminished, it's not quite likely they will either.

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 ==Blizzard Changes Art Based on Feedback==
-While most of the feedback from enthusiastic fans were discounted as not being a priority or even possible in terms of gameplay, [[Jay]] did come back and told the fans through [http://www.incgamers.com/Videos/190/Diablo-3-Jay-Wilson-GC-Interview IncGamers] that they made certain changes from the feedback. Here is a summary from [http://www.diii.net/n/686928/jay-wilson-video-interview Diii.net]:
+While most of the feedback from enthusiastic fans were discounted as not being a priority or even possible in terms of gameplay, [[Jay]] did come back and told the fans through [http://www.incgamers.com/Videos/190/Diablo-3-Jay-Wilson-GC-Interview IncGamers] that they made certain changes from the feedback. Here is a summary from IncGamers.[http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/jay-wilson-video-interview]
-<blockquote>''In the interview Jay talks about his past jobs in the gaming industry, the D2 team guys working on D3, struggles they've had with game and art design, and art design, and art design, and art design. Have you heard that there was a controversy about the art design? No? Well, this interview will fill you right in. Jay does elaborate on two art changes they've made based on fan feedback; they're going back and making a lot of the dungeon environments grittier and bloodier, and they're not going to fade out all of the corpses after battles now; just some of them. Many will remain on the ground until the characters leave the area. Also he confirms that there will be cinematics for D3, at least as many as there were for D2, and that the teaser we saw from WWI was pieced together from several of the longer cinematics we'll see in the final game.''</blockquote>
+<blockquote>''Jay elaborates on two art changes they've made based on fan feedback; they're going back and making a lot of the dungeon environments grittier and bloodier, and they're not going to fade out all of the corpses after battles now; just some of them. Many will remain on the ground until the characters leave the area.''</blockquote>
 * [http://www.incgamers.com/Videos/190/Diablo-3-Jay-Wilson-GC-Interview Video Interview].

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 * Less colour in the environment.
 * No rainbows!
-* Add the 'light radius' of Diablo 1 and Diablo 2.
+* Add the '[[light radius]]' of Diablo 1 and Diablo 2.
 * Equipment should be more realistic, with smaller shoulder plates as a main focus point.

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 ===Responses to Complaints===
-Popular web comic site [http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Penny Arcade] commented on the controversy, as well as presenting a comic about the issue. One that satirized/insulted the fans who were objecting to strongly to the colorful Diablo III images.
+Popular web comic site [http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Penny Arcade] commented[http://www.penny-arcade.com/2008/8/6/] on the controversy, as well as presenting a comic[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/8/6/] about the issue.
-[[Image:Angst.jpg|center|frame|Penny Arcade responded with a comic named 'Angst.jpg'.]]
+::We tried to imagine the sort of person who takes world-class design, changes the contrast, and then calls themselves the artist. It wasn't especially difficult.
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 ===Responses to Complaints===
-Among other fans, popular web comic site [http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Penny Arcade] didn't quite think the changes required such a violent response, and made a very satirical response to it. Very "Penny-Arcade-esque".
+Popular web comic site [http://www.penny-arcade.com/ Penny Arcade] commented on the controversy, as well as presenting a comic about the issue. One that satirized/insulted the fans who were objecting to strongly to the colorful Diablo III images.
-[[Image:Angst.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Penny Arcade responded with a comic named 'Angst.jpg'.]]
+[[Image:Angst.jpg|center|frame|Penny Arcade responded with a comic named 'Angst.jpg'.]]
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	==Fan Reactions==		==Fan Reactions==
−	[[Image:Art_controversy_09.jpg\|center\|thumb\|~~400px~~\|One Diablo fan's artistic inspiration from the [[WWI 2008]] reveal.]]	+	[[Image:Art_controversy_09.jpg\|center\|thumb\|600px\|One Diablo fan's artistic inspiration from the [[WWI 2008]] reveal.]]

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 ===How it "Should" Look===
-A lot of discussion started up about the colour of the environments in the [http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=669266 community forums], where some fans utterly hated the new colours, some didn't care as long as they got D3, and some liked it. Fan-made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_manipulation#Photoshopping photoshopped] images popped up with no colour, higher contrast, more "grit", or even the odd blood stain. More pictures hasve been posted in the [http://www.diii.net/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=553 Controversy Gallery] since then. Naturally, effects such as rainbows were done away with as the point of all these images is to make the pictures more grey and "dark". Some variants just enhance a few aspects, while some go all-out. A very strong fear for just "re-making World of WarCraft" is prevalent.
+A lot of discussion started up about the colour of the environments in the [http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=669266 community forums], where some fans utterly hated the new colours, some didn't care as long as they got D3, and some liked it. Fan-made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_manipulation#Photoshopping photoshopped] images popped up with no colour, higher contrast, more "grit", or even the odd blood stain. More pictures have been posted in the [http://www.diii.net/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=553 Controversy Gallery] since then. Naturally, effects such as rainbows were done away with as the point of all these images is to make the pictures more grey and "dark". Some variants just enhance a few aspects, while some go all-out. A very strong fear for just "re-making World of WarCraft" is prevalent.
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 *[http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html Petition Against colour 3] - 54,138 (60,654 2009-07-01)
 *[http://www.petitiononline.com/d3israd/petition.html Petition to support Blizzard] - 815
-One of the petitions against the new art direction got quite popular, and Blizzard originally did not comment on it. There were also petitions starting to support Blizzard's decision. The number of signatures on the different petitions is probably not an accurate guideline for what fans think however, as the fans who do like the current direction would be less vocal than those who are unhappy.
+One of the petitions against the new art direction got quite popular, and Blizzard originally did not comment on it. There were also petitions starting to support Blizzard's decision. The number of signatures on the different petitions are probably not an accurate guideline for what fans think however, as the fans who do like the current direction would be less vocal than those who are unhappy.
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 ::''Skip to about the 21:00 mark to hear it. To paraphrase, the designers talk about how their memories of D1 and D2 were that they were dark and gritty, but that when they actually looked back through the games they found much more color than they expected. They also say that they looked at horror movies and noticed how the color was used effectively to create mood, and that they're following that design path with Diablo III.''
-The reactions from fans might have been a bit stronger than they initially thought though, as they started out in the beginning of July to avoiding replying to the petition itself. It's unlikely Blizzard didn't know about it, as it was reported on from several websites like [http://www.slashgear.com/diablo-iii-producer-under-fire-for-adding-color-0312386.php Slashgear], [http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080703.WBwgtgameblog030120080703084156/WBStory/WBwgtgameblog0301 The Globe and Mail] as well as the largest [http://www.diii.net/n/669078/too-colorful Diablo 3 fansite].
+The reactions from fans might have been a bit stronger than they initially thought though, as they started out in the beginning of July to avoiding replying to the petition itself. It's unlikely Blizzard didn't know about the uproar, considering several websites such as [http://www.slashgear.com/diablo-iii-producer-under-fire-for-adding-color-0312386.php Slashgear], [http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080703.WBwgtgameblog030120080703084156/WBStory/WBwgtgameblog0301 The Globe and Mail] and the largest [http://www.diii.net/n/669078/too-colorful Diablo 3 fansite], all featured reports on the reactions.
 ::[http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/07/02/diablo-iii-art-direction/ Keith Lee replies:]

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−	The '''art controversy''' of [[Diablo III]] started with [[WWI 2008]], when a number of Diablo fans found the colour of ~~the~~ Diablo ~~environment~~ palette to be "too colourful". ~~The actual~~ art direction was ~~done in~~ the summer 2007. [http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/2662371]	+	The '''art controversy''' of [[Diablo III]] started with [[WWI 2008]], when a considerable number of Diablo fans found the colour of Diablo 3's palette as initially revealed to be "too colourful". Many fans referenced the bright colors and tinted lightning so common in World of Warcraft and felt Diablo 3 was reminiscent of that and "too cartoonish."
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		+	Diablo 3's final version art direction was completed during the summer of 2007 after extensive iterative testing, tweaking, and editing. [http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/2662371]

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 Since virtually everyone who created Diablo I and Diablo II have since left the company (most before or when [[Blizzard North]] closed in 2005), and the project was begun almost entirely from scratch at Blizzard Irvine in 2005, there's very little continuity between D3 and the previous games in the series. This is not very noticeable in the gameplay, but it's quite clear in the visuals and art design/style, which is what spurred the whole Art Controversy in the first place.
-Most of the designers of D1 and D2 have refrained from making any comments on the look or style of D3, and when they have commented they've been fairly positive. Bill Roper, however, took a different, more candid approach when asked about Diablo 3 in a few interviews in early 2009. Bill spoke at length on this issue with IncGamers.com [http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/175/bill-roper-talks/2]
+Most of the designers of D1 and D2 have refrained from making any comments on the look or style of D3, and when they have commented they've been fairly positive. [[Bill Roper]], however, took a different, more candid approach when asked about Diablo 3 in a few interviews in early 2009. Bill spoke at length on this issue with IncGamers.com [http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/175/bill-roper-talks/2]
 ::''IncGamers.com: To go further back in your career, you worked on Diablo, and that's coming up on a third sequel. How do you think it's been handled?