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Talk:DiabloWiki:Community Portal

2009-02-18T08:18:01Z

MarauderIIC: /* Added some templates/Shield weights? */ augh links

==Welcome to the Community Discussion!==

Feel free to bring forth any questions or suggestions here. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:26, 27 August 2008 (CEST)

==Diablo III Fact Sheet==

I really feel we need a fact sheet about central information that people are looking. Most of the people who come to the wiki are looking for an easy acces to some of the basics, like how many acts, what characters, release date and so on. Certainly we don't know everything, but at least we know what we don't know and can say it like an authority so people know they can't find the information anywhere else either (and come back to the page looking if it's updated). And basically we have a lot of interviews outlining all of the basics I listed and more, so really just collecting some quotes like "barbarian will be the only returning class", "we are thinking of having same number of acts like in Diablo II", "I'm hoping it will be released before 2011 or 2012" and stuff like that really would help people who don't read every news item.

It could be the featured page even. Anyway, as it is something kinda big I don't feel like I am the one who should start this kind of a page since my wiki skills are pretty much limited to writing text with links. What do you guys think about this? Does this kind of a page already exist? --[[User:Mouseman|Mouseman]] 11:51, 31 August 2008 (CEST)

: How do you like [[Diablo 3 Basics]]? =) [[Fact Sheet]] and [[Diablo III Fact Sheet]] also redirects there. Feel free to add anything you want. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)

== Armour / Armor ==
I am apparently not the only one who likes to write in ''English'' English here, but when you talk about an attribute in the game that has a name, such as "armor", you should treat it as a name rather than a word (a correct spelling would be "armour"). The short of it is that "Armor" is in most cases the correct way to write "Armour", and contributors can write words like "humour" or "humor" in whichever way they want. Any questions? If so, ask me. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
: I have discussed this with Elly, and it was decided we'll be using American English in DiabloWiki, primarily. If you want to write out "Armour" and "humour", that's fine, and don't spend time changing those to "Armor" and "humor" unless it's a title. Post here if you have opinions/questions. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:34, 24 October 2008 (CEST)

== The use of "The" ==
If you look at the [[:Category:Lore]] page, a lot of articles have the "The" Prefix to them, being taken directly from the game manual by MedievalDragon, but I was thinking how to do with this in general. Most wikis don't have the "The" in it, but in some cases it seems more natural than not. I am leaning toward removing the "The" from these articles and new ones. Any opinions on this? There is also a discussion I started on the [[Lore]] discussion page. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:51, 24 October 2008 (CEST)
:Well I checked "The" Lore Category page (:p) and I think that having the word "The" is necessary. I satarted to say some of the names without the and it doesn't "feel" right...it's like saying "The" away from "The Last Supper". It looses it's "power" (don't know how to describe that feeling of understanding, knowledge). Adding the word "The" adds importance to the event, making it impact the "feeling" we get from reading the stub. I hope I made some sense with this, but my advice would be to keep "The" prefix.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 22:54, 27 October 2008 (CET)
:: Ok, thanks for the input. That's a bit of what I felt. The problem is when adding this event into a sentence, where you might not really want to capitalize "The" for the link. The [[Sin War]] is a good example. The other thing is that it's harder to sort these events in the categories. If some have "The" and some don't, a lot of the parts will end up under "T" in the sorting. I suppose there can be exceptions to the rule here, but that isn't optimal. Also, where do we draw the line? any more input on it? =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:45, 30 October 2008 (CET)

:::Very true, as I kept reading the lore section and reading your reply...well I think that some of the terms do need "The". I will list the ones that I feel don't need the prefix "The": Sin War, Nature of the Soulstones, Fall of the Black King and Binding of the Three. The ones I am having trouble with deciding are: The Last Testament of Ord Rekar and The Lands of Khanduras.

:::On another note, in the article for The Dark Exile, there's a reference to The Great Conflict but only Great Conflict is marked (With the ascension of Man and the subsequent standstill of the [[Great Conflict]],); so maybe it should be adjusted. Didn't want to change it before consulting you though :D.

:::Also, when looking at the Lore category page, we can see 2 darkenings of tristam, but one is misspelled. Is there any way to remove the misspelled one? --[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 05:43, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::: Well, the lore section will be revamped a lot. Right now it's mainly just laying there, transcripted by MD. Several of the entries will go away completely, and either be part of a [[Book]] entry, or just be available in the [[Diablo I Manual]], or some other manual.

:::: [[The Lands of Khanduras]] will be deleted, and folded in to the [[Librarius Ex Horadrim]] Book entry, the [[Diablo I Manual]] as well as [[Khanduras]]. Thinking about it, [[The Last Testament of Ord Rekar]] will work as a book entry named [[Last Testament of Ord Rekar]], grouped with [[Aust]]'s journal. In the light that most of these entries will be folded in to other things, I don't think there is a great problem with "The" for now. Make sure you notify me if you find other mentions in books or manuals that require a "The".

:::: Regarding deletion: Right now only me, [[User:Flux|Flux]] and the other admins can delete pages, but you'll likely be part of that inner group if you continue to bring feedback and be part of the whole wiki community. ;) For now, just add a <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>-template on a page that needs deletion, unless you can logically [[Help:Redirect|redirect]] it to some other appropriate article. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:04, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::::Thanks for the template, did a little research to add reason. Still very noob at wiki. I have done some work but still learning, so if you got a good place to look for info quickly I'd appreciate it.

:::::I think that revamping lore is gonna help out with all the "The" issues too. Also, having all the info under on while "book" would be a better idea I think. I've brainstormed something right now...but I'll work on it and then I'll shot the idea past you and see what you think.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 19:16, 31 October 2008 (CET)

::::::Coolio. Feel free to upate on your user pages. I'll try to keep an eye out and comment on it. BTW, make sure you link all of your pages on four front page, or you'll forget the url, like I do =P For now, I think the only thing we can do with "The" is to fix the lore section to the extent it's possible, and then see if we have anything left that needs a "the". If so, we'll discuss it further =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:15, 1 November 2008 (CET)

==Redirecting to the Diablo 2 wiki==
This page (along with others) practically mirrors content in the Diablo 2 wiki. Temporarily, I've pasted in content from the D2 wiki, because the page was blank after I attempted to redirect to it.

Anyone figure out a way to do this? -- 04:16, 9 December 2008 D3nick

: Well, the idea is to use the [http://www.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 3 Wiki] for all lore and story-based info and then link that from the [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 2 Wiki]. To this effect, I created the [[Template:Interwiki|"Interwiki" template]]. I works on both wikis the opposite ways. The idea is to have a quick, standard way of "redirecting" the page. It's unfortunately not possible to redirect with the normal wiki redirects, as the two wikis are on different sub-domains. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:11, 10 December 2008 (CET)

== Added some templates/Shield weights? ==

Not sure how useful they'll be outside of set items, but
[http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:All Set Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:General Item Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:Weapon Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:Armor Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:Shield Notes]. All Set Notes is a composite of General Items, Weapon Notes, and Armor Notes, since I can't do an #ifeq in templates here, apparently (was going to let us go <nowiki>{{General Item Notes|set}}</nowiki> and have it append the set-specific text automagically but the condition only worked on Wikipedia :P

Also wouldn't it be better if the wiki subdomains shared a common wiki but had different namespaces? It'd be less confusing. ;.;

Anyway, if applicable, use them and stop copy pasting -- holy cow! Hahaha :) Also, please check [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:Shield Notes]'s fixme (do D2X's 'heavy' shields slow speed/drain stamina?), please. Thanks, guys. Also sorry for if you see this cross-posted places, I kept find more and more relevant places to post it :) --[[User:MarauderIIC|MarauderIIC]] 09:12, 18 February 2009 (CET) Edited 09:16, 18 February 2009 (CET) fixed links sorry, bad habit when it comes to not using the preview button.

Talk:DiabloWiki:Community Portal

2009-02-18T08:16:37Z

MarauderIIC: /* Added some templates/Shield weights? */

==Welcome to the Community Discussion!==

Feel free to bring forth any questions or suggestions here. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:26, 27 August 2008 (CEST)

==Diablo III Fact Sheet==

I really feel we need a fact sheet about central information that people are looking. Most of the people who come to the wiki are looking for an easy acces to some of the basics, like how many acts, what characters, release date and so on. Certainly we don't know everything, but at least we know what we don't know and can say it like an authority so people know they can't find the information anywhere else either (and come back to the page looking if it's updated). And basically we have a lot of interviews outlining all of the basics I listed and more, so really just collecting some quotes like "barbarian will be the only returning class", "we are thinking of having same number of acts like in Diablo II", "I'm hoping it will be released before 2011 or 2012" and stuff like that really would help people who don't read every news item.

It could be the featured page even. Anyway, as it is something kinda big I don't feel like I am the one who should start this kind of a page since my wiki skills are pretty much limited to writing text with links. What do you guys think about this? Does this kind of a page already exist? --[[User:Mouseman|Mouseman]] 11:51, 31 August 2008 (CEST)

: How do you like [[Diablo 3 Basics]]? =) [[Fact Sheet]] and [[Diablo III Fact Sheet]] also redirects there. Feel free to add anything you want. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)

== Armour / Armor ==
I am apparently not the only one who likes to write in ''English'' English here, but when you talk about an attribute in the game that has a name, such as "armor", you should treat it as a name rather than a word (a correct spelling would be "armour"). The short of it is that "Armor" is in most cases the correct way to write "Armour", and contributors can write words like "humour" or "humor" in whichever way they want. Any questions? If so, ask me. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
: I have discussed this with Elly, and it was decided we'll be using American English in DiabloWiki, primarily. If you want to write out "Armour" and "humour", that's fine, and don't spend time changing those to "Armor" and "humor" unless it's a title. Post here if you have opinions/questions. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:34, 24 October 2008 (CEST)

== The use of "The" ==
If you look at the [[:Category:Lore]] page, a lot of articles have the "The" Prefix to them, being taken directly from the game manual by MedievalDragon, but I was thinking how to do with this in general. Most wikis don't have the "The" in it, but in some cases it seems more natural than not. I am leaning toward removing the "The" from these articles and new ones. Any opinions on this? There is also a discussion I started on the [[Lore]] discussion page. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:51, 24 October 2008 (CEST)
:Well I checked "The" Lore Category page (:p) and I think that having the word "The" is necessary. I satarted to say some of the names without the and it doesn't "feel" right...it's like saying "The" away from "The Last Supper". It looses it's "power" (don't know how to describe that feeling of understanding, knowledge). Adding the word "The" adds importance to the event, making it impact the "feeling" we get from reading the stub. I hope I made some sense with this, but my advice would be to keep "The" prefix.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 22:54, 27 October 2008 (CET)
:: Ok, thanks for the input. That's a bit of what I felt. The problem is when adding this event into a sentence, where you might not really want to capitalize "The" for the link. The [[Sin War]] is a good example. The other thing is that it's harder to sort these events in the categories. If some have "The" and some don't, a lot of the parts will end up under "T" in the sorting. I suppose there can be exceptions to the rule here, but that isn't optimal. Also, where do we draw the line? any more input on it? =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:45, 30 October 2008 (CET)

:::Very true, as I kept reading the lore section and reading your reply...well I think that some of the terms do need "The". I will list the ones that I feel don't need the prefix "The": Sin War, Nature of the Soulstones, Fall of the Black King and Binding of the Three. The ones I am having trouble with deciding are: The Last Testament of Ord Rekar and The Lands of Khanduras.

:::On another note, in the article for The Dark Exile, there's a reference to The Great Conflict but only Great Conflict is marked (With the ascension of Man and the subsequent standstill of the [[Great Conflict]],); so maybe it should be adjusted. Didn't want to change it before consulting you though :D.

:::Also, when looking at the Lore category page, we can see 2 darkenings of tristam, but one is misspelled. Is there any way to remove the misspelled one? --[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 05:43, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::: Well, the lore section will be revamped a lot. Right now it's mainly just laying there, transcripted by MD. Several of the entries will go away completely, and either be part of a [[Book]] entry, or just be available in the [[Diablo I Manual]], or some other manual.

:::: [[The Lands of Khanduras]] will be deleted, and folded in to the [[Librarius Ex Horadrim]] Book entry, the [[Diablo I Manual]] as well as [[Khanduras]]. Thinking about it, [[The Last Testament of Ord Rekar]] will work as a book entry named [[Last Testament of Ord Rekar]], grouped with [[Aust]]'s journal. In the light that most of these entries will be folded in to other things, I don't think there is a great problem with "The" for now. Make sure you notify me if you find other mentions in books or manuals that require a "The".

:::: Regarding deletion: Right now only me, [[User:Flux|Flux]] and the other admins can delete pages, but you'll likely be part of that inner group if you continue to bring feedback and be part of the whole wiki community. ;) For now, just add a <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>-template on a page that needs deletion, unless you can logically [[Help:Redirect|redirect]] it to some other appropriate article. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:04, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::::Thanks for the template, did a little research to add reason. Still very noob at wiki. I have done some work but still learning, so if you got a good place to look for info quickly I'd appreciate it.

:::::I think that revamping lore is gonna help out with all the "The" issues too. Also, having all the info under on while "book" would be a better idea I think. I've brainstormed something right now...but I'll work on it and then I'll shot the idea past you and see what you think.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 19:16, 31 October 2008 (CET)

::::::Coolio. Feel free to upate on your user pages. I'll try to keep an eye out and comment on it. BTW, make sure you link all of your pages on four front page, or you'll forget the url, like I do =P For now, I think the only thing we can do with "The" is to fix the lore section to the extent it's possible, and then see if we have anything left that needs a "the". If so, we'll discuss it further =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:15, 1 November 2008 (CET)

==Redirecting to the Diablo 2 wiki==
This page (along with others) practically mirrors content in the Diablo 2 wiki. Temporarily, I've pasted in content from the D2 wiki, because the page was blank after I attempted to redirect to it.

Anyone figure out a way to do this? -- 04:16, 9 December 2008 D3nick

: Well, the idea is to use the [http://www.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 3 Wiki] for all lore and story-based info and then link that from the [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 2 Wiki]. To this effect, I created the [[Template:Interwiki|"Interwiki" template]]. I works on both wikis the opposite ways. The idea is to have a quick, standard way of "redirecting" the page. It's unfortunately not possible to redirect with the normal wiki redirects, as the two wikis are on different sub-domains. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:11, 10 December 2008 (CET)

== Added some templates/Shield weights? ==

Not sure how useful they'll be outside of set items, but
[http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:All Set Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:General Item Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:Weapon Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:Armor Notes] [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes Template:Shield Notes]. All Set Notes is a composite of General Items, Weapon Notes, and Armor Notes, since I can't do an #ifeq in templates here, apparently (was going to let us go <nowiki>{{General Item Notes|set}}</nowiki> and have it append the set-specific text automagically but the condition only worked on Wikipedia :P

Also wouldn't it be better if the wiki subdomains shared a common wiki but had different namespaces? It'd be less confusing. ;.;

Anyway, if applicable, use them and stop copy pasting -- holy cow! Hahaha :) Also, please check [[Template:Shield Notes]]'s fixme (do D2X's 'heavy' shields slow speed/drain stamina?), please. Thanks, guys. Also sorry for if you see this cross-posted places, I kept find more and more relevant places to post it :) --[[User:MarauderIIC|MarauderIIC]] 09:12, 18 February 2009 (CET) Edited 09:16, 18 February 2009 (CET) fixed links sorry, bad habit when it comes to not using the preview button.

Talk:DiabloWiki:Community Portal

2009-02-18T08:13:29Z

MarauderIIC: /* Added some templates/Shield weights? */

==Welcome to the Community Discussion!==

Feel free to bring forth any questions or suggestions here. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:26, 27 August 2008 (CEST)

==Diablo III Fact Sheet==

I really feel we need a fact sheet about central information that people are looking. Most of the people who come to the wiki are looking for an easy acces to some of the basics, like how many acts, what characters, release date and so on. Certainly we don't know everything, but at least we know what we don't know and can say it like an authority so people know they can't find the information anywhere else either (and come back to the page looking if it's updated). And basically we have a lot of interviews outlining all of the basics I listed and more, so really just collecting some quotes like "barbarian will be the only returning class", "we are thinking of having same number of acts like in Diablo II", "I'm hoping it will be released before 2011 or 2012" and stuff like that really would help people who don't read every news item.

It could be the featured page even. Anyway, as it is something kinda big I don't feel like I am the one who should start this kind of a page since my wiki skills are pretty much limited to writing text with links. What do you guys think about this? Does this kind of a page already exist? --[[User:Mouseman|Mouseman]] 11:51, 31 August 2008 (CEST)

: How do you like [[Diablo 3 Basics]]? =) [[Fact Sheet]] and [[Diablo III Fact Sheet]] also redirects there. Feel free to add anything you want. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)

== Armour / Armor ==
I am apparently not the only one who likes to write in ''English'' English here, but when you talk about an attribute in the game that has a name, such as "armor", you should treat it as a name rather than a word (a correct spelling would be "armour"). The short of it is that "Armor" is in most cases the correct way to write "Armour", and contributors can write words like "humour" or "humor" in whichever way they want. Any questions? If so, ask me. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
: I have discussed this with Elly, and it was decided we'll be using American English in DiabloWiki, primarily. If you want to write out "Armour" and "humour", that's fine, and don't spend time changing those to "Armor" and "humor" unless it's a title. Post here if you have opinions/questions. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:34, 24 October 2008 (CEST)

== The use of "The" ==
If you look at the [[:Category:Lore]] page, a lot of articles have the "The" Prefix to them, being taken directly from the game manual by MedievalDragon, but I was thinking how to do with this in general. Most wikis don't have the "The" in it, but in some cases it seems more natural than not. I am leaning toward removing the "The" from these articles and new ones. Any opinions on this? There is also a discussion I started on the [[Lore]] discussion page. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:51, 24 October 2008 (CEST)
:Well I checked "The" Lore Category page (:p) and I think that having the word "The" is necessary. I satarted to say some of the names without the and it doesn't "feel" right...it's like saying "The" away from "The Last Supper". It looses it's "power" (don't know how to describe that feeling of understanding, knowledge). Adding the word "The" adds importance to the event, making it impact the "feeling" we get from reading the stub. I hope I made some sense with this, but my advice would be to keep "The" prefix.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 22:54, 27 October 2008 (CET)
:: Ok, thanks for the input. That's a bit of what I felt. The problem is when adding this event into a sentence, where you might not really want to capitalize "The" for the link. The [[Sin War]] is a good example. The other thing is that it's harder to sort these events in the categories. If some have "The" and some don't, a lot of the parts will end up under "T" in the sorting. I suppose there can be exceptions to the rule here, but that isn't optimal. Also, where do we draw the line? any more input on it? =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:45, 30 October 2008 (CET)

:::Very true, as I kept reading the lore section and reading your reply...well I think that some of the terms do need "The". I will list the ones that I feel don't need the prefix "The": Sin War, Nature of the Soulstones, Fall of the Black King and Binding of the Three. The ones I am having trouble with deciding are: The Last Testament of Ord Rekar and The Lands of Khanduras.

:::On another note, in the article for The Dark Exile, there's a reference to The Great Conflict but only Great Conflict is marked (With the ascension of Man and the subsequent standstill of the [[Great Conflict]],); so maybe it should be adjusted. Didn't want to change it before consulting you though :D.

:::Also, when looking at the Lore category page, we can see 2 darkenings of tristam, but one is misspelled. Is there any way to remove the misspelled one? --[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 05:43, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::: Well, the lore section will be revamped a lot. Right now it's mainly just laying there, transcripted by MD. Several of the entries will go away completely, and either be part of a [[Book]] entry, or just be available in the [[Diablo I Manual]], or some other manual.

:::: [[The Lands of Khanduras]] will be deleted, and folded in to the [[Librarius Ex Horadrim]] Book entry, the [[Diablo I Manual]] as well as [[Khanduras]]. Thinking about it, [[The Last Testament of Ord Rekar]] will work as a book entry named [[Last Testament of Ord Rekar]], grouped with [[Aust]]'s journal. In the light that most of these entries will be folded in to other things, I don't think there is a great problem with "The" for now. Make sure you notify me if you find other mentions in books or manuals that require a "The".

:::: Regarding deletion: Right now only me, [[User:Flux|Flux]] and the other admins can delete pages, but you'll likely be part of that inner group if you continue to bring feedback and be part of the whole wiki community. ;) For now, just add a <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>-template on a page that needs deletion, unless you can logically [[Help:Redirect|redirect]] it to some other appropriate article. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:04, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::::Thanks for the template, did a little research to add reason. Still very noob at wiki. I have done some work but still learning, so if you got a good place to look for info quickly I'd appreciate it.

:::::I think that revamping lore is gonna help out with all the "The" issues too. Also, having all the info under on while "book" would be a better idea I think. I've brainstormed something right now...but I'll work on it and then I'll shot the idea past you and see what you think.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 19:16, 31 October 2008 (CET)

::::::Coolio. Feel free to upate on your user pages. I'll try to keep an eye out and comment on it. BTW, make sure you link all of your pages on four front page, or you'll forget the url, like I do =P For now, I think the only thing we can do with "The" is to fix the lore section to the extent it's possible, and then see if we have anything left that needs a "the". If so, we'll discuss it further =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:15, 1 November 2008 (CET)

==Redirecting to the Diablo 2 wiki==
This page (along with others) practically mirrors content in the Diablo 2 wiki. Temporarily, I've pasted in content from the D2 wiki, because the page was blank after I attempted to redirect to it.

Anyone figure out a way to do this? -- 04:16, 9 December 2008 D3nick

: Well, the idea is to use the [http://www.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 3 Wiki] for all lore and story-based info and then link that from the [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 2 Wiki]. To this effect, I created the [[Template:Interwiki|"Interwiki" template]]. I works on both wikis the opposite ways. The idea is to have a quick, standard way of "redirecting" the page. It's unfortunately not possible to redirect with the normal wiki redirects, as the two wikis are on different sub-domains. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:11, 10 December 2008 (CET)

== Added some templates/Shield weights? ==

Not sure how useful they'll be outside of set items, but
[[diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes|Template:All Set Notes]] [[diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes|Template:General Item Notes]] [[diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes|Template:Weapon Notes]] [[diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes|Template:Armor Notes]] [[diablo2.diablowiki.net/Template:All_Set_Notes|Template:Shield Notes]]. All Set Notes is a composite of General Items, Weapon Notes, and Armor Notes, since I can't do an #ifeq in templates here, apparently (was going to let us go <nowiki>{{General Item Notes|set}}</nowiki> and have it append the set-specific text automagically but the condition only worked on Wikipedia :P

Anyway, if applicable, use them and stop copy pasting -- holy cow! Hahaha :) Also, please check [[Template:Shield Notes]]'s fixme (do D2X's 'heavy' shields slow speed/drain stamina?), please. Thanks, guys. Also sorry for if you see this cross-posted places, I kept find more and more relevant places to post it :) --[[User:MarauderIIC|MarauderIIC]] 09:12, 18 February 2009 (CET)

Talk:DiabloWiki:Community Portal

2009-02-18T08:12:35Z

MarauderIIC: Added some templates/Shield weights?

==Welcome to the Community Discussion!==

Feel free to bring forth any questions or suggestions here. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:26, 27 August 2008 (CEST)

==Diablo III Fact Sheet==

I really feel we need a fact sheet about central information that people are looking. Most of the people who come to the wiki are looking for an easy acces to some of the basics, like how many acts, what characters, release date and so on. Certainly we don't know everything, but at least we know what we don't know and can say it like an authority so people know they can't find the information anywhere else either (and come back to the page looking if it's updated). And basically we have a lot of interviews outlining all of the basics I listed and more, so really just collecting some quotes like "barbarian will be the only returning class", "we are thinking of having same number of acts like in Diablo II", "I'm hoping it will be released before 2011 or 2012" and stuff like that really would help people who don't read every news item.

It could be the featured page even. Anyway, as it is something kinda big I don't feel like I am the one who should start this kind of a page since my wiki skills are pretty much limited to writing text with links. What do you guys think about this? Does this kind of a page already exist? --[[User:Mouseman|Mouseman]] 11:51, 31 August 2008 (CEST)

: How do you like [[Diablo 3 Basics]]? =) [[Fact Sheet]] and [[Diablo III Fact Sheet]] also redirects there. Feel free to add anything you want. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)

== Armour / Armor ==
I am apparently not the only one who likes to write in ''English'' English here, but when you talk about an attribute in the game that has a name, such as "armor", you should treat it as a name rather than a word (a correct spelling would be "armour"). The short of it is that "Armor" is in most cases the correct way to write "Armour", and contributors can write words like "humour" or "humor" in whichever way they want. Any questions? If so, ask me. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:12, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
: I have discussed this with Elly, and it was decided we'll be using American English in DiabloWiki, primarily. If you want to write out "Armour" and "humour", that's fine, and don't spend time changing those to "Armor" and "humor" unless it's a title. Post here if you have opinions/questions. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:34, 24 October 2008 (CEST)

== The use of "The" ==
If you look at the [[:Category:Lore]] page, a lot of articles have the "The" Prefix to them, being taken directly from the game manual by MedievalDragon, but I was thinking how to do with this in general. Most wikis don't have the "The" in it, but in some cases it seems more natural than not. I am leaning toward removing the "The" from these articles and new ones. Any opinions on this? There is also a discussion I started on the [[Lore]] discussion page. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:51, 24 October 2008 (CEST)
:Well I checked "The" Lore Category page (:p) and I think that having the word "The" is necessary. I satarted to say some of the names without the and it doesn't "feel" right...it's like saying "The" away from "The Last Supper". It looses it's "power" (don't know how to describe that feeling of understanding, knowledge). Adding the word "The" adds importance to the event, making it impact the "feeling" we get from reading the stub. I hope I made some sense with this, but my advice would be to keep "The" prefix.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 22:54, 27 October 2008 (CET)
:: Ok, thanks for the input. That's a bit of what I felt. The problem is when adding this event into a sentence, where you might not really want to capitalize "The" for the link. The [[Sin War]] is a good example. The other thing is that it's harder to sort these events in the categories. If some have "The" and some don't, a lot of the parts will end up under "T" in the sorting. I suppose there can be exceptions to the rule here, but that isn't optimal. Also, where do we draw the line? any more input on it? =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:45, 30 October 2008 (CET)

:::Very true, as I kept reading the lore section and reading your reply...well I think that some of the terms do need "The". I will list the ones that I feel don't need the prefix "The": Sin War, Nature of the Soulstones, Fall of the Black King and Binding of the Three. The ones I am having trouble with deciding are: The Last Testament of Ord Rekar and The Lands of Khanduras.

:::On another note, in the article for The Dark Exile, there's a reference to The Great Conflict but only Great Conflict is marked (With the ascension of Man and the subsequent standstill of the [[Great Conflict]],); so maybe it should be adjusted. Didn't want to change it before consulting you though :D.

:::Also, when looking at the Lore category page, we can see 2 darkenings of tristam, but one is misspelled. Is there any way to remove the misspelled one? --[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 05:43, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::: Well, the lore section will be revamped a lot. Right now it's mainly just laying there, transcripted by MD. Several of the entries will go away completely, and either be part of a [[Book]] entry, or just be available in the [[Diablo I Manual]], or some other manual.

:::: [[The Lands of Khanduras]] will be deleted, and folded in to the [[Librarius Ex Horadrim]] Book entry, the [[Diablo I Manual]] as well as [[Khanduras]]. Thinking about it, [[The Last Testament of Ord Rekar]] will work as a book entry named [[Last Testament of Ord Rekar]], grouped with [[Aust]]'s journal. In the light that most of these entries will be folded in to other things, I don't think there is a great problem with "The" for now. Make sure you notify me if you find other mentions in books or manuals that require a "The".

:::: Regarding deletion: Right now only me, [[User:Flux|Flux]] and the other admins can delete pages, but you'll likely be part of that inner group if you continue to bring feedback and be part of the whole wiki community. ;) For now, just add a <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>-template on a page that needs deletion, unless you can logically [[Help:Redirect|redirect]] it to some other appropriate article. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:04, 31 October 2008 (CET)

:::::Thanks for the template, did a little research to add reason. Still very noob at wiki. I have done some work but still learning, so if you got a good place to look for info quickly I'd appreciate it.

:::::I think that revamping lore is gonna help out with all the "The" issues too. Also, having all the info under on while "book" would be a better idea I think. I've brainstormed something right now...but I'll work on it and then I'll shot the idea past you and see what you think.--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 19:16, 31 October 2008 (CET)

::::::Coolio. Feel free to upate on your user pages. I'll try to keep an eye out and comment on it. BTW, make sure you link all of your pages on four front page, or you'll forget the url, like I do =P For now, I think the only thing we can do with "The" is to fix the lore section to the extent it's possible, and then see if we have anything left that needs a "the". If so, we'll discuss it further =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:15, 1 November 2008 (CET)

==Redirecting to the Diablo 2 wiki==
This page (along with others) practically mirrors content in the Diablo 2 wiki. Temporarily, I've pasted in content from the D2 wiki, because the page was blank after I attempted to redirect to it.

Anyone figure out a way to do this? -- 04:16, 9 December 2008 D3nick

: Well, the idea is to use the [http://www.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 3 Wiki] for all lore and story-based info and then link that from the [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/ Diablo 2 Wiki]. To this effect, I created the [[Template:Interwiki|"Interwiki" template]]. I works on both wikis the opposite ways. The idea is to have a quick, standard way of "redirecting" the page. It's unfortunately not possible to redirect with the normal wiki redirects, as the two wikis are on different sub-domains. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:11, 10 December 2008 (CET)

== Added some templates/Shield weights? ==

Not sure how useful they'll be outside of set items, but
[[Template:All Set Notes]] [[Template:General Item Notes]] [[Template:Weapon Notes]] [[Template:Armor Notes]] [[Template:Shield Notes]]. All Set Notes is a composite of General Items, Weapon Notes, and Armor Notes, since I can't do an #ifeq in templates here, apparently (was going to let us go <nowiki>{{General Item Notes|set}}</nowiki> and have it append the set-specific text automagically but the condition only worked on Wikipedia :P

Anyway, if applicable, use them and stop copy pasting -- holy cow! Hahaha :) Also, please check [[Template:Shield Notes]]'s fixme (do D2X's 'heavy' shields slow speed/drain stamina?), please. Thanks, guys. Also sorry for if you see this cross-posted places, I kept find more and more relevant places to post it :) --[[User:MarauderIIC|MarauderIIC]] 09:12, 18 February 2009 (CET)

User talk:MarauderIIC

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MarauderIIC:

See http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/User_talk:MarauderIIC

User:MarauderIIC

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MarauderIIC:

See http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/User:MarauderIIC

User talk:Leord/1

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MarauderIIC: Whoops

==Welcome==
Feel free to leave a message =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:16, 21 August 2008 (CEST)

==Signing posts==
Hi Leord: I got your message but I am not sure about the best way to answer to you. In fact, editing this post is the only way I could think of. How do you make sure there is a new message tag that pops up on your account when I send you a message? Anyways, yes I am currently trying to update the prefixes and suffixes data on diabloII wiki. I am not that experienced with Wiki (I work trial and error mostly) but I have been playing Diablo for 5 years so I know the game pretty well now. (unsigned: 08:33, 26 August 2008 [[User_talk:Widus|Widus]])

: Cool! Well, take a look at this talk page, this is basically how to do it. Just remember to sign your posts on talk pages, to make it easier to see who posted =) Just make any edit on my talk page, and I'll get a small notification next time I log in to the wiki. To reply, just use ":" in front of the text, like I did here, and make a new headline for new topics. Make new headlines on top. We can keep discussions on one page, instead of flip-flopping here and there, and I assume my talk page will become quite busy, so lots of interesting things will be dealt with here ^^ I must say that you seem to be doing fine, and the prefixes and suffixes are important parts of Diablo, so great Kudos to you! Feel free to come back here and ask me for anything, small or big, I'm here to help =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:37, 26 August 2008 (CEST)

:: Great. Thanks! [[User_talk:Widus|Widus]] (11:51, 28 August 2008)

==Question about signatures and Diablo III fact page==

Hello Leord!

Should I sign every page I edit? I understand signing the user pages and so on, but lots of times the edit can be only a small one and I don't want to take credit for it by signing the whole page. Could you clear this one up for me? When should I use signatures?

Also, is there a Diablo III fact page yet? The kind of page which collects all the interesting facts about the game: release date, number of acts, playable character classes, game engine and so on. Not an in-depth article, just a quick "fact sheet" so people won't have to search all those little pieces of information all by themselves across the wiki. As the [http://www.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=16571 recent boomtown article] tells us there's going to be four acts and confirmes once again that there's five character classes, it might be enough to start such a "fact page", especially when the news are that the barbarian is the only recurring character class. --[[User:Mouseman|Mouseman]] 08:41, 23 August 2008 (CEST)

: Hi Mouseman. You should only sign talk page edits. As for any other page, they would be cluttered with signs everywhere, and we're doing this as a communal project, so everyone's edits (that are not vandalism) are welcome and appreciated.

: The fact sheet is a great idea, and while we don't have one, I'd post it in the news even if you did something out of the [[Fact Sheet]]. I think we have the official sheet laying about, I know Flux mentioned it in the news recently, might be in the [http://www.diii.net/articles/ Diii.net articles section]... Something to start from, and add to. Probably not that advanced, and the Boomtown article might be some cheat sheet help as well. =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:37, 26 August 2008 (CEST)

== Minor Edits? ==

Hi Leord, 
Question for you: does flagging an edit as minor yield some advantage when dealing with the revision history? What is the threshold for determining whether an edit is a minor change (i.e. is there a convention or is it mostly for typos)? 
--[[User:Azymn|Azymn]] 08:29, 23 August 2008 (CEST)

: Good question! We currently do not have a convention for it, and the main reasoning is to be able to hide it in the [[Special:Recent Changes|Recent Changes]]. So, for right now, please do check it if it's minor, but if you don't, it's no biggie. I'd say that typo changes, or changing a word in a sentence to make it easier to understand is placed as "minor". =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:37, 26 August 2008 (CEST)

== Horodric Cube ==

Hi Leord. You left a coment on [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Nickshanks my talk page] but I can't recall what changes i made (they are not listed in the page history!). I wrote a Mac OS X editor for D2 characters. And sometimes actually play the game. Is there anything you specifically need help with? [[User:Nickshanks|Nickshanks]] 12:00, 17 September 2008 (CEST)

== Class and Skill formats ==

Hi Leord, good to see you on the liveblog the other day. About the character/skill pages: now that we have a bit more info on characters and skills, I was thinking to rewrite the character screens and skill lists so they're more consistent, and hopefully present the data we have now a little better. I figured I'd wait a few weeks for all the new info to trickle in before doing this, but wanted to run it by you to see if that approach is too drastic or if you (or Flux or Elly) have a strong idea of how you want them laid out. I planned to make some temporary pages for preview purposes. Thoughts? -- [[User:Azymn|Azymn]] 05:16, 14 October 2008 (CEST)

: That sounds awesome! I know they need reworking, and never be afraid of playing a bit with the wiki. I recommend making test pages on your profile page. Just do it like this: [[User:Azymn/Barbarian_skills]], and we can discuss it there as well. Make sure to poke me, in case I miss the updates in the recent changes page. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:07, 14 October 2008 (CEST)

==Message==
Hi, Leord. You left me a message somehow. I'm still getting used to using this here wikithing. I'm glad you liked my edit in the jewels section. Some of that looked like it was written by a 7-year-old, but I felt like it'd have been too much effort to fix up properly. --[[User:Doctorjorts|Doctorjorts]] 17:51, 3 October 2008 (CST)
: Ok, do you mean it's too much mess to fix at all, or just that it was a bit bad? --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:18, 14 October 2008 (CEST)

==NPCs page linkup and greetings==

Hi again Leord! The NPCs page isn't linked properly in the main page pull-down menu. I don't know how to forward pages so I was wondering if you could do it? So the category:Npcs page should be forwarded to category:NPCs.

I was kind of bummed that you didn't mention me in the main page news when you thanked people's effor on the wiki ;) Did you forget me so soon? :) Well, anyway, I try to polish the [[NPCs]] page yet again and do an edit about Adria the witch today. Probably will be inactive after that for a while, though. Keep up the good work!!--[[User:Mouseman|Mouseman]] 09:41, 25 October 2008 (CEST)

: Thanks Mouseman! I fixed that, and you can look in the [[Help:Redirect]] page for help on how to do that in the future. I'm really more interested in fixing the actual menu links than making redirects, but they are usually good as well, so thanks for being so astute! =)

: I blame the wiki for not crediting you, as it only shows some 500 edits max in the recent changes. ;) I only said thanks to the last week or so worth of contribs, but I added you to a "friends" list of mine, so I haven't forgotten about you! You're still one of the best contribs ;)

: Even if you don't have time to bring in contributions, try to take the time to check your messages (or mine), and post suggestions and opinions on the [[Talk:DiabloWiki:Community_Portal|Community Portal talk page]]. Even if you don't personally do big things all the time, it does help others to feel the wiki is alive =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:53, 27 October 2008 (CET)

==Message==
Hola Leord! How's it going? I hope that everything is well :D

This wiki is very nice/informative and should be the bible for the Diablo series. I'll be checking stuff out and correct spelling/add info or fix stuff...I like to lurk :p I think that this wiki is headed the right way and people are helping out a lot to fill it in.
--[[User:Shayagor|Shayagor]] 17:19, 25 October 2008 (CEST)

:"Like to lurk" huh? =) I understand if you don't have time to do bigger things, but just crawling around pages and adding your opinions to discussions like the [[Talk:DiabloWiki:Community_Portal|Community Portal]], messages here, or on individual pages for pages. It really helps to make the wiki feel more alive, even if you mainly help with the polish, such as spelling and numbers. =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:06, 27 October 2008 (CET)

==Tal Rasha==
Leord, thank you for your compliments on my Tal Rasha article. I am new at this so thanks for editing it with links and categories. I appreciate it. I am quite interested in Diablo lore. I will probably do a few more of the pages that the main page of the wiki lists as wanted. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Centipede_t|Centipede_t]] 11:18, 10 November 2008
: Made the reply on your page, just in case you missed it =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 17:12, 11 November 2008 (CET)

==RE: Diablo Droughts==
Hey Leord, I got your message. It is my first time editing this wiki (I edit various work related ones, but they're much different) so if I did something wrong, or forgot to include something let me know. I did see the editing help page, but it was blank, so I figured I didn't have many constraints to work within. In regards to [[Diablo Drought]]s, I was extremely bored while studying so I decided to coin a term for the [frustrating] lack of news we've seen the past couple months. I find myself refreshing diii.net about 10-15 times a day :(

Cheers, and thanks for the corrections.
--[[User_talk:D3nick|D3nick]] 22:46, 08 December 2008 (EST)

==Hi!==
Hey, yeah that was me that you messaged a few days ago. I'm kind of new to this whole thing, but I've been a big Diablo fan for awhile, and thought I might as well fix a typo while I'm reading stuff on here. :)--[[User:Nithix|Nithix]] 22:08, 20 December 2008 (CET)

:: Hey! Moved your comment down, for the chronology =) I also replied on your talk page instead of mine =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:15, 22 December 2008 (CET)

== Linkies ==
Just skimmed your page and noticed you used external links to everything, like so:
:<pre><nowiki>[http://diablowiki.net/User:Azymn Azymn]</nowiki></pre>
You could cut down the size, and remove the blue arrow+box thingy by changing it to
:<pre><nowiki>[[User:Azymn|Azymn]]</nowiki></pre>
Or, you could leave anything beyond the pipe empty, like so:
:<pre><nowiki>[[User:Azymn|]]</nowiki></pre>
Either way, it will produce [[User:Azymn|Azymn]], rather than [http://diablowiki.net/User:Azymn Azymn]. --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 15:12, 25 December 2008 (CET)

: Hehe, indeed, right you are! I just did that as it's easier with copy+paste. In the Hellfire wiki I kept forgetting who came and made smaller contributions, so I don't want to do that same mistake again, that's all. =) If you dislike the external linkies, you're more than free to update my user page for me, but you can probably find lots of things that are more interesting to the community instead. ;)

: I'm quite flattered that you were interested enough in the wiki to notice this, keep up the good work, I'll be back with more time on my hands in a little bit more than a week. I have almost never even the possibility to connect here, and everyone here at home wants to see me since I haven't seen them in over a year, many of them...--[[User:Leord|Leord]] 14:18, 27 December 2008 (CET)

== Username on forum ==
I'm actually SlechtWeerBeer on the fora.. :P Saw you had a link to Vipermagi on your page (I have much too little to do >.>" ) --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 15:31, 9 January 2009 (CET)
: Thanks =) I was sure I had found you! =P So you don't know the other Vipermagi, I take it? --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:41, 12 January 2009 (CET)

::Eh, no, I don't think so. Besides, his latest activity was in 2005 ^^" --[[User:Vipermagi|Vipermagi]] 21:57, 13 January 2009 (CET)

::: True that. You are most perceptive, young padawan! =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 12:07, 14 January 2009 (CET)

==Worldstone article/page==
Hey man! First I want to say thank you for all the little tips and directions you gave me about wiking lately ;). Now, I was looking for the [[Worldstone]] article and it says "Temporary Removed" dated by you on november 8. Any chance it will be up and running again soon? I would love to refresh memory on it's story. --[[User:Mizantrop|Mizantrop]] 18:25, 16 January 2009 (CET)
: Yes, that would be very cool! The situation is that some contribs just copy+pasted material from the Wikia DiabloWiki, and we want the material over here to be original to us, at most copying official text (and then mostly for the [[manual]]s etc). In order to update the article with fresh, DiabloWiki-lore, you can go to the "history" section of it, and see the text of the older version. Don't copy+paste it back, but use it for inspiration. Meaning, the facts themselves are ok to use, but you need to use your own language when making the article.

:A few other articles have a similar "Temp deleted". The few of us that contrib lore haven't gotten around to adding them yet, but they are sorely needed. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 19:40, 16 January 2009 (CET)

::I noticed your need for a [[Worldstone]] page, so I decided to create it as my first real article contribution. I added an image for it, also. Hope you like it! --[[User:Delowyn|Delowyn]] 10:27, 24 January 2009 (CET)

::: Hey man. That's awesome, dude! =) It's a superb start for any Wiki editor, and I only have one thing I think you should look at. Please try to keep links to other pages at a lower count. Lots of different links are good, but you only need one link to a specified page per section of the article. Basically, link only [[Sanctuary]] once in the top section, and once in the bottom section. If the page has 5 sections, link up to 5 times to Sanctuary. ;) Same with any link, ofc. Also, good you added the "red" links. It will make them show up [[Special:Wantedpages|here]], so people can find what's needed to make. Make sure to check out my home-grown [[Help]] section, or just ask me if you have a question. PM or e-mail works fine as well! =) Leord 18:16, 26 January 2009 (CET)

== Thanks ==
Hey man, just wanted to say I got your wiki message today, and thank you for the tips! Of course I don't mind the updates, bring them anytime. Mi casa es su casa. First time using a wiki and I'm still wrapping my head around the rules.
--[[User:Delowyn|Delowyn]] 00:05, 24 January 2009 (CET)
:Cool. Basically, the norm is to reply to messages on teh same page it was made, so you reply on your page if I cam to you with questions, and I reply here, if you ask me =) Sometimes it's good to leave a little "poke" on the other person's page, so they get a message from the wiki they got a new "PM". --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:16, 26 January 2009 (CET)

==Contest Links==
Hey Leo, on my wiki page I added two images for contest art that I had done, I was wondering if you or anyone else were going to add the contest pages to the community section. I can build them if needed just wanted to come to you here first. The two pages I have the two images linked in their descriptions are: [[Swords Fanart Contest]] and [[Halloween 2008 Contest]] the sub-section on my page for them is [[http://www.diablowiki.net/Holyknight3000#Contest_Artwork Contest Artwork]]. Get back with me later or reply to this wiki post when you can ill check the page daily. Thanks --[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 01:52, 26 January 2009 (CET)
 

: Hey HK. The contest pages are definitely going to be added at one point or another. At the moment, I think lore pages will have my full attention though, so I definitely encourage you to carry it on. I did make [[Diii.net contests]] some time ago, but is not sufficiently updated. Also, if you wish to make specific articles for each contest, just make one like this: [[Diii.net contests: Swords Fanart Contest]]. Or whatever name the contest had. If there was different names mentioned on different places, use your own judgement. =) I'm more than happy to come with pointers and help for making the pages, and don't feel like you need to update the [[Diii.net contests]]. Just leave a link from there to your pages. 

: The reason for having "Diii.net contests:" in front of the names is ofc that other fansites might join in to help the wiki, and they can use their own pages for contests ;) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 18:16, 26 January 2009 (CET)
 

:: An update for you, you can change the wording if you like but the [[http://www.diablowiki.net/Diii.net_contests#Second_Chance_Readers.27_Vote_Fan_Art_Contest Second Chance Readers' Vote Fan Art Contest] wasn't really updated so i added the winners and the fact that the contest rewarded 3 books instead and added the text about it anf a link to Flux's post about it on the second page of the post. Let me know what ya think and any ideas for later. Thanks Leo, --[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 04:18, 28 January 2009 (CET)

::: Another great update, good one. It's obviously not a major one, but it's good to get your head around the code, so any update is good, and it's actually better to start with the ones that are not of critical importance. Myself or Flux will get around to updating the competitions page further later on. Well, if it's already done by then, that's awesome, so we can dedicate time to other things, such as new articles or larger projects =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 17:40, 28 January 2009 (CET)

:::: Anythime, just noticed it wasn't updated with links and other things. I'll leave it to you guys there. I'll do what delo does, and help on other websites, since ive helped the community with wallpapers, think ill do my best and help on the wiki as well.

::::Also this has been eating at me, i wonder if i could make a Fiery Runes Series page, reason im asking is because i can make the page show how the series was built, the changes done to the series, a behind the scenes thing i dunno, i almost made the page 4 times but i restrained myself, thought i'd come talk to the boss over the wiki about it. If not ill add it to my wiki page, either way i think it'll be a nice add to the wiki. Thanks Leo, --[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 04:40, 29 January 2009 (CET)

:::::This is the Diablo Wiki. Everything related to Diablo, the game, lore and the community will eventually be included! =) Basically, anything you think might be of slight interest is worthy of an article. The only thing you need to think of is naming policy, and structure of the page. It needs to NOT be an advertisement, it's to be informative. I know this isn't a problem with you, but that's the guideline.

:::::So, when making a new article, you need to think ahad a bit, so the name will not clash with future ingame items, quests or the like. Since you are "just" a contrib still (you're more than welcome as a sysop later on, if you have you get time/skill for it), you don't really have to make a great analysis. Just make an article with appropriate name, and if I come along and think that's a name that we might use for something else, I'll just move the page, and leave a redirect. The content is still there, so there is never a reason NOT to make an article if you have the idea, inspiration and time to do so. =) I hope that answered your question...

:::::Yeah, so [[Fiery Runes Series]] is an ok name for now, can't think of any reason to have it different. Perhaps we'll make it like [[Fanart:Fiery Runes Series]] or so in the future, for coherence with other fan artists. But go with [[Fiery Runes Series]] for now, that's cool. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 13:17, 30 January 2009 (CET)

::::::Give me some time to gather all the data, and type it all; out images also, but if you want my honest opinion leo, this stuff should be like you said at the latter [[Fanart:Fiery Runes Series]], Need to get with Delo and see if he wants to name his 3d art series and make a similar page so he can show how he made all his images. Worst case scenario I could just add how i did the series as a subsection on my page as the rest of the series posts are there too. I might do that for now and when we get the data all situated ill move it to the new page. Let me know what you think. --[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 03:43, 31 January 2009 (CET)

::::::: With this structure, it does not have to be a "series". Just any project. He could do a [[Fanart:Mistress of Pain]] with pics. In this case, it's plenty of room on his [[Delowyn]] page, so no need to think of it right now, but as time goes on, there might be too much clutter, so splicing the page up into other articles is just natural. Just like any wiki page! Point is, any article that's related DIRECTLY to fan art, we'll from now on decide to add in a "Fanart:" prefix, just like "[[User:Holyknight3000]]" or "[[Boilerplate:Monster]]. =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 15:13, 3 February 2009 (CET)

:::::::: Sounds like a plan to me leo, in the future let me know when you want me to move my stuff to a new page or whatever. Until then ill build the behind the runes sup-section in the meantime!--[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 21:59, 3 February 2009 (CET)

==Replying==

Hey Leo, check my page i replied to your message! --[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 22:53, 4 February 2009 (CET)

::On a side note i pray when i created pages and moved them around like you asked, that i did them right, please get back with me soon if i didn't. I have a feeling i did just still worried you know. This is THE diablowiki after all! --[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 02:37, 5 February 2009 (CET)

==Phase Two for the Behind the Fiery Runes==
Just letting you know leo if you havent seen yet that ive started adding images to the [[Fanart:Behind_the_Fiery_Runes]] and will gradually add more as time goes on. I know ill do revisions but Atleast the sections getting some images added now!--[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 00:26, 15 February 2009 (CET)

==Massive Wiki Updates for my Sections==
hey leo Ive been a tad busy today, updated [[Fanart:Behind the Fiery Runes]], [[Fanart:Fiery Runes Series]], and my [[Holyknight3000]] page changing my Fiery Rune links into sub-links now that i learned the code a little better, let me know what you think. I really liked how it all turned out. I may take it easy from a wallpaper this week i dunno I might make a new non fiery wall. See ya soon!--[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 02:24, 16 February 2009 (CET)

:Aw, man, this is exactly what I was thinking of when I was encouraging you to make a HK3K page! I fixed some oddity you made with the titles, but that's about it. I think you should add links to your Wiki profile, forum profile(s) and any Deviant Art account or the like. --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 16:57, 16 February 2009 (CET)

::Hey Leo i also left messages on both discussions on both the wiki pages, here - [[Talk:Fanart:Behind the Fiery Runes]] and [[Talk:Fanart:Fiery Runes Series]], The Behind the fiery runes one i had an idea come about, take a look and lemme know what ya think.--[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 22:09, 16 February 2009 (CET)

:::Oki, made some comments, but with your newfound wiki skillz, there isn't much to say! ;) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:17, 17 February 2009 (CET)

== Re: Grammar Fixes ==
Sorry about the late reply; college has me busy at the moment :(

Anyhow, I'd love to do some more writing/grammar fixes for the Wiki when I have the time. Let me know if there's anything specific you'd like me to work on. - [[User:NateD|NateD]] 09:34, 17 February 2009 (CET)
:Replying on your page, we might as well keep the discussion there =) --[[User:Leord|Leord]] 11:17, 17 February 2009 (CET)

==Question for you Leo==
Check my talk on my wiki page man, i'll keep all my fan art section ideas and questions there for the time being, please check it often.--[[User:Holyknight3000|holyknight3000]] 12:07, 17 February 2009 (CET)

== Whoops ==

So... is the double talk pages a problem with the way the site is set up? Heh. Anyway, I left some messages [[http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/User_talk:Leord#re_greeting|here]]. [[User:MarauderIIC|MarauderIIC]] 09:04, 18 February 2009 (CET)